A concise comparison of "carrying" ability

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron 2016. No all star teammates beats 73 win team with 3 all stars and unanimous mvp

3 all nba players vs 1

LeGoat

Carrying ability vs actual opponents too

[3ball]

3 all nba players vs 1

LeGoat

Carrying ability vs actual opponents too

Dirk carried a lottery cast (a team that was lottery the prior year) to the playoffs and 7 games with the champs (2014)

Lebron failed 3 times to carry lottery casts to playoffs (04', 05', 19')

And think about how much better Dirk did with his 8-seed cast compared to Lebron's 4 HOF, b2b cast in 2014... ... again, carry-job - read the thread title - Dirk carried teams better

You should be embarrassed to stan LeFraud

[SpaceJam2]

Dirk carried a lottery cast (a team that was lottery the prior year) to the playoffs and 7 games with the champs (2014)

Lebron failed 3 times to carry lottery casts to playoffs (04', 05', 19')

And think about how much better Dirk did with his 8-seed cast compared to Lebron's 4 HOF, b2b cast in 2014... ... again, carry-job - read the thread title - Dirk carried teams better

You should be embarrassed to stan LeFraud

How many times has 1 all nba beaten 3 all nba in the finals? Besides Bron vs Warriors?

LeBron also swept 4 all stars in 2015 vs Hawks

2 ez

[NBAGOAT]

07 mavs definitely aren’t strong but when did terry and all star Howard become no cast?? Also the mavs were very different in 14 compared to 13, you can’t call them a lottery cast based on them missing the playoffs in 13. Monta was pretty important. The only point you have is the talent deficit in 11 which everyone knows about.

Your points are extremely easy to refute but no one wants to because you never stop arguing and just deflect to another point when you don’t have a good response like bringing up mj vs lebron in the doncic thread lol

PS: the 06 cavs are a lottery cast based on your logic and I won’t bother responding to any of your deflections or topic changes

[Manny98]

LeBron took a 67 win team to a gruelling 6 games with Matthew Dellavadova as his sidekick in 2015

LeBron won 66 games with a no star cast in 09

LeBron dragged a no star cast to the finals in 2018

Also in 07 he dragged a no star cast to the finals

2013 Wade is the worst second option ever (15.7ppg) and LeBron carried him to a ring

So that's five examples of LeBrons GOAT carrying ability

[Lebron23]

LeBron took a 67 win team to a gruelling 6 games with Matthew Dellavadova as his sidekick in 2015

LeBron won 66 games with a no star cast in 09

LeBron dragged a no star cast to the finals in 2018

Also in 07 he dragged a no star cast to the finals

2013 Wade is the worst second option ever (15.7ppg) and LeBron carried him to a ring

So that's five examples of LeBrons GOAT carrying ability

LeBron is the best ever.

[3ball]

07 mavs definitely aren’t strong but when did terry and all star Howard become no cast?? [COLOR="DarkRed"]they're a couple of fringe all-stars just like Mo and Zydrunas..

Then it's Devin Harris, non-starter Jerry Stackhouse, and Dampier vs Delonte, Szczerbiak and Varejao.. So no real difference - and Lebron is in the weaker conference with better 3-point shooting and coaching (Avery is no longer in the league).. So again, Dirk's 2007 matches Lebron's 2009 in degree of carry-job [/COLOR]


Also the mavs were very different in 14 compared to 13, you can’t call them a lottery cast based on them missing the playoffs in 13. Monta was pretty important. [COLOR="DarkRed"]Shawn Marion, Vince Carter, Darren Collison, OJ Mayo were all pretty important too.. Adding Monta and going from lottery to 8-seed is still a carry-job, some would argue and more difficult one - and then taking that 8 seed to 7 games with the mighty Spurs, while Lebron gets uncled with his 2-seeded, 4 HOF team is a MUCH bigger carry-job than anything Lebron ever did.. it infact proves that he gets babied about his loss - Lebron-ball is simply extremely beatable, aka 3/9[/COLOR]


The only point you have is the talent deficit in 11 which everyone knows about [COLOR="DarkRed"](no, I have all three - see the previous bold red[/coLOR]

CONCLUSIONS:


1) Dirk owns the record for biggest talent deficit overcome when his Mavericks beat the "not 6, not 7" super-team of prime Dwayne Wade, Lebron James and Chris Bosh.

2) Dirk and Lebron's carry-jobs in 2007 and 2009, respectively, are similar and pretty equal.. They both had 2 fringe all-star teammates and similar role players after that, except the Cavs were in the weaker conference with better coaching and 3-point shooting.

3) Adding Monta in 2014 and going from lottery to 8-seed is still a carry-job by Dirk - some would argue a more difficult one - and then taking that 8 seed to 7 games with the mighty Spurs, while Lebron gets uncled with his 2-seeded, 4 HOF champion is a MUCH bigger carry-job than anything Lebron ever did.. it infact proves that Lebron gets babied about his loss - Lebron-ball is simply extremely beatable, aka 3/9 - it loses to everyone, and badly

PS: the 06 cavs are a lottery cast based on your logic and I won’t bother responding to any of your deflections or topic changes

Right - Lebron failed to carry lottery casts to the playoffs in 2004 and 2005, and only succeeded in 2006 after the addition of a 20-point, all-defender sidekick, and a future COY - so he acquired a good team first and then made it as a high seed - he never dragged a lottery cast (his 04, 05, or 19' casts) to a low seed - he missed it with lottery casts/low seeds, and only made it with high seeds/good teams.. Making it with only high seeds means that he never faced tough 1st round matchups, and inflated his resume
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[superduper]

Imagine using the fact of Bran marginalizing his perennial allstar teammates so bad that they aren't allstars under Bran ball as a good thing.

Bran stans

[Keno]

safe to say this thread has backfired, stay making daily irrelevant threads OP.

[superduper]

safe to say this thread has backfired, stay making daily irrelevant threads OP.

Like your alt friends make 20x irrelevant insecure threads daily

[knicksman]

300+ threads.

Refute what he said clown

[tanibanana]

Is the 300+ threads for this year only?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Why was dirks 23ppg on bad efficiency and no defense enough in 2011?

He was carried, that's why

Plus 07 is the biggest choke ever. Why would you bring that up?