What year was Kobe the clear-cut best player in the world?

[2much_knowledge]

Damn these kobe haters are annoying. Wade cant even hold kobes jock strap, kobe was on a whole nother level even in 06. Wade had a good finals but thats about it

Wade was better in 06 cause of a grand total of 4 monster games lol.

[coastalmarker99]

What? Why was he not better than Wade in '06? Because he didn't have a great supporting cast and didn't get to play the Mavs in the Finals, the same team he dropped 60 on in 3 quarters and averaged 43 ppg against in 3 games that year? Dirk was at peak Kobe level? What kind of crack are you on?

And no, Duncan was not on Kobe's level in '07 lmao, Kobe averaged 31.6 on 58%TS that year and led the Lakers to the POs with most of the key rotation players injured for huge chunks of the season, that post-ASG run was legendary & we saw how much better Kobe was the following year when he had a slightly better team and completely annihilated Duncan in the Playoffs in 5 games, how many times did he attack Timmy and made him look like a sub-par defensive player?

Kobe was the best player in the world from 06-10. Stat nerds will not understand this but he was unstoppable/the most complete player in the game and almost every player/media "analyst" were in agreement as well, him, Shaq and Lebron are the only players since MJ that have actually been viewed as the best in the world by both media & players during their primes. This retard here thinks that Nash was a better offensive player than prime Kobe. Good god. Go compare the Lakers and Suns' rosters and tell me how Nash's team only had a .3 higher ORTG with peak Amare and still an all-star level Shaq while Kobe only had Gasol for 2 months. Also, Nash got shut down in the 1st round against the Spurs and let Tony Parker average damn near 30 on 58%TS on his ass LMAO.



Not only that but he averaged 36.4 ppg on 57%TS post-ASG in '07 that included the 4-straight 50+ pt games all in close wins, including a 65-pt OT win with legendary clutch shots against Portland. He was on another level.

People can not seriously ignore the fact that Kobe in 2006 and 2007 seemed as if he was the second coming of Wilt.



Since Wilt Chamberlain averaged 41.6 ppg on November of 1964, only one player in NBA history has averaged 40 or more ppg for a whole month - Kobe Bryant (4 times



It's just ridiculous how only Kobe was able to accomplish this.

Not even Jordan averaged 40 for a whole month.


Here are Kobe's stats in those months:

February 2003 - 40.6/4.9/3.6 on 47.2/42.9/84.6 (58.4 TS%)

January 2006 - 43.4/5.6/4.1 on 47.0/39.7/89.7 (61.1 TS%)

April 2006 - 41.6/5.5/3.6 on 50.9/41.3/82.4 (62.1 TS%)

March 2007 - 40.4/6.2/4.5 on 45.9/37.2/86.5 (57.5 TS%)



His stats look even crazier when you consider that stretch in 2006 and 2007 was during one of the lowest pace stretches in NBA history.




I mean just look at this over the course of a week in 2007 Kobe scored 65, 50, 60, and 50 in four straight games with the Lakers going 4-0.


Therefore during that insane week in 2007.

Kobe averaged 56.3 points, 6.3 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.5 steals, and only 2.0 TOs and to boot he shot 54.3/51.5/93.3 with a 67.6 TS%

[TheGoatest]

He was never the clear-cut best player in an objective, data-based way.
He was only the best to some in a subjective, "eye-test"-based way.

[HunterSThompson]

2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 up until the finals when his body started breaking down

[8Ball]

2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 up until the finals when his body started breaking down

2003 was duncan
2006 was Wade
2007 was Duncan
2008 was Bron
2009 was Bron
2010 was Bron

[RRR3]

It was never clear cut but he had a good case in 06, 07 and 08. He had zero case any other year.

[ImKobe]

It was never clear cut but he had a good case in 06, 07 and 08. He had zero case any other year.

Yes, he had zero case when he won B2B titles lmao.

[GimmeThat]

the years when people were so freighted by Tim Duncan when Shaq and Kobe broke up. "not 5, not 6, not 7"

[2much_knowledge]

Yes, he had zero case when he won B2B titles lmao.

These clows are tripping lol. They hate MJ so hard, Kobe triggers them too for the similarities

[HunterSThompson]

2003 was duncan
2006 was Wade
2007 was Duncan
2008 was Bron
2009 was Bron
2010 was Bron

kobe had 4 times as many 40 point games and 50 point games in 2003 than duncan had in 19 years

kobe was literally god mode in 2006 and wades only success was going to the free throw line 20 times a game

duncan wasn't even finals mvp in 2007 and kobe again did in 1 week what duncan failed to do in 19 years

lebron had a horrible year in 2008 and choked the gold medal game away and needed kobe to save him

lebron choked the #1 seed vs dwight in 2009

and in 2010 lebron checked out after the worst collapse in playoff history only maybe topped by 2011

[999Guy]

What? Why was he not better than Wade in '06? Because he didn't have a great supporting cast and didn't get to play the Mavs in the Finals, the same team he dropped 60 on in 3 quarters and averaged 43 ppg against in 3 games that year? Dirk was at peak Kobe level? What kind of crack are you on?

And no, Duncan was not on Kobe's level in '07 lmao, Kobe averaged 31.6 on 58%TS that year and led the Lakers to the POs with most of the key rotation players injured for huge chunks of the season, that post-ASG run was legendary & we saw how much better Kobe was the following year when he had a slightly better team and completely annihilated Duncan in the Playoffs in 5 games, how many times did he attack Timmy and made him look like a sub-par defensive player?

Kobe was the best player in the world from 06-10. Stat nerds will not understand this but he was unstoppable/the most complete player in the game and almost every player/media "analyst" were in agreement as well, him, Shaq and Lebron are the only players since MJ that have actually been viewed as the best in the world by both media & players during their primes. This retard here thinks that Nash was a better offensive player than prime Kobe. Good god. Go compare the Lakers and Suns' rosters and tell me how Nash's team only had a .3 higher ORTG with peak Amare and still an all-star level Shaq while Kobe only had Gasol for 2 months. Also, Nash got shut down in the 1st round against the Spurs and let Tony Parker average damn near 30 on 58%TS on his ass LMAO.



Not only that but he averaged 36.4 ppg on 57%TS post-ASG in '07 that included the 4-straight 50+ pt games all in close wins, including a 65-pt OT win with legendary clutch shots against Portland. He was on another level.

So in short, 60 in 3 quarters, high PPG, isolated playoff games, and media opinions are your argument.

You’re about average level of knowledge and intrigue for a for a Kobe fan. Completely mediocre point of view that’s been perpetuated for literally years now.

I’m only saying this so you understand my complete ****ing lack of motivation to discuss this with you. You didn’t even begin an argument(to me), let alone win one. You just hit me with a bottle of stupid in the face.

Now if we could talk about: Playing ability, context, physical game, mental game, resiliency in the playoffs, approach to basketball, etc, then this would at least be fun.

Kobe fans are literally 20 years behind dumb. Like it should’ve stopped being acceptable to be this this stupid about the sport by the early 2010’s when basketball analysis really started reaching high levels on the internet, and with analytics in front offices, etc.

You’ve been posting here for over 8 years and you haven’t even added a wrinkle to the Kobe stan national anthem that is this horseshit. Not one point I haven’t seen before, no train of thought I haven’t seen(I.e “dIs guy did dIS in uh pLaYOff seRIes b4”)



feel ashamed

[Phoenix]

kobe had 4 times as many 40 point games and 50 point games in 2003 than duncan had in 19 years

Then proceeded to lose to him with Shaq on his side. But sure, 40 and 50 point games

[HunterSThompson]

i think best player each year is subjective. but i know how much you guys like media stuff and even the fans voted for one of these.

Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s) - Kobe Bryant

TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s) - Kobe Bryant

Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 List: The 10 Best NBA Players Since 2000 (published in the February 2011 issue) - Kobe Bryant

Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athletes of the Decade
1. Tiger Woods (U.S.), golf
2. Roger Federer (Switzerland), tennis
3. Michael Phelps (U.S.), swimming
4. Lance Armstrong (U.S.), cycling
5. Usain Bolt (Jamaica), track and field
6. Tom Brady (U.S.), American football
7. Kobe Bryant (U.S.), basketball

[HunterSThompson]

Then proceeded to lose to him with Shaq on his side. But sure, 40 and 50 point games

if horry makes even just 1 of his 20 three point attempts the lakers win that series. kobe had one of the greatest comeback performances ever and it was ruined

[Phoenix]

i think best player each year is subjective. but i know how much you guys like media stuff and even the fans voted for one of these.

Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s) - Kobe Bryant

TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s) - Kobe Bryant

Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 List: The 10 Best NBA Players Since 2000 (published in the February 2011 issue) - Kobe Bryant

Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athletes of the Decade
1. Tiger Woods (U.S.), golf
2. Roger Federer (Switzerland), tennis
3. Michael Phelps (U.S.), swimming
4. Lance Armstrong (U.S.), cycling
5. Usain Bolt (Jamaica), track and field
6. Tom Brady (U.S.), American football
7. Kobe Bryant (U.S.), basketball

So the same media that you argue conspired to not give Kobe the MVP award multiple years, is the same one who voted him player of the decade in multiple outlets. And to top it off, you've made these two totally contradictory arguments within the space of 30 minutes.