Was the bar set too high?

[3ball]

Imagine celebrating a second-round win compared to a guy that has made the finals for eight straight years.

8 straight finals (and how many rings)
6900 points (and how many rings)
10 game winners (how many late in the series or the championship)

how many rings did his 6900 points get?

6900 points and only 3 rings

so skills and stats are less effective/"empty" and miss their mark (winning) - similar to a suboptimal boxer that throws a ton of punches but fails to connect sufficiently, lebron's ball-dominant, stat accumulation prevents his teams from playing a brand that can win frequently

Goat bar set

Lebron's stats benefitted from deep runs in a weak conference that didn't require good teams to make the Finals from 01-09', when 5 weak teams made it (AI, Lebron, Dwight, Kidd 2) - and then Lebron stacked the deck to ensure Finals runs from 11-18', further inflating his deep run ability/stat accumulation

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]The GOAT standard is unrealistic

[superduper]

The GOAT standard is unrealistic


•6900 playoff points
•8-straight Finals
•Lead all players in everything for a series
•10-game winners
•Beat a 73-win team



The GOAT bar has been set.

Good luck, everyone

Wait hold up... why did you not mention wins/total attempts?

There is NO way all of those great $tats are empty. Absolutely NO way...say it ain't so

[TheCorporation]

Wait hold up... why did you not mention wins/total attempts?

There is NO way all of those great $tats are empty. Absolutely NO way...say it ain't so

Oh, playoff series wins too?

Sure

LeBron: 35
Kobe: 33
MJ: 30

Next

[3ball]

Was the bar set TOO high?

Are these unattainable?

- 30+ ppg is a higher standard than 6900

- Being the 72-win champion > going 1/4 against them

- Westbrooking for 1 series means nothing and has a poor track record; kyrie's goat-like scoring has the track record of closing/winning

- 10 game-winners with zero late in a series or in the championship.. pathetic

[TheCorporation]

- 30+ ppg is a higher standard than 6900

- Being the 72-win champion > going 1/4 against them

- Westbrooking for 1 series means nothing and has a poor track record; kyrie's goat-like scoring has the track record of closing/winning

- 10 game-winners with zero late in a series or in the championship.. pathetic

You are a lying moron.

6900 = 1 player ever

GOAT standard

[superduper]

Oh, playoff series wins too?

Sure

LeBron: 35
Kobe: 33
MJ: 30

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DAMN.. Bran has 35 PlayoffSeriesWins Rings?!

#TheBar

[TheCorporation]

DAMN.. Bran has 35 PlayoffSeriesWins Rings?!

#TheBar

Bill Russell

[3ball]

- only player with 4+ fmvp (mj has 6)
- only player at 30/5/5 for regular season... and playoffs... and Finals
- all-time leader in PPG, including a 4-point margin in playoffs
- 10 scoring titles (record)
- only player to win scoring title & dpoy in same season (88').. he also won MVP that yr
- only perimeter player to win scoring title and title in same season (6 times)
- all-time playoff records for single game pts, series ppg, and Finals ppg
- #1 all-time championship frequency since the 3-point line began (6 in 15 yrs.. 40.0%)
- only MVP to win 70+ and the championship
- only player to sweep all 3 MVP's, scoring title, 1st team all-D, and ring in same season
- only player that is top 2 in career PER, VORP, BPM, WS/48 for regular season and playoffs
- highest frequency of combined 1st team all-nba and 1st team all-defense - 19 selections in 10 seasons
- only HOF that was never outscored by a teammate in a playoff series (MJ led team by average margin of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option)
- only top 10 player to never lose with a good team (1 or 2 seed)
- Best winning stats ever - 33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)
- Best losing stats ever - 44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense, and 40 ppg combined versus 86' and 87' celts

[3ball]

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You are a lying moron.

6900 = [COLOR="DarkRed"]1 player ever[/COLOR]

GOAT standard

Only 1 guy is over 30 ppg in playoffs

MJ.. ..plus all the other stuff in the previous post

haven't you been reading the post where MJ sits alone atop the scoring list?. Only MJ is over 30 and he has a 4+ lead on everyone else

[TheCorporation]

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Only 1 guy is over 30 ppg in playoffs

MJ.. ..plus all the other stuff in the previous post

haven't you been reading the post where MJ sits alone atop the scoring list?. Only MJ is over 30 and he has a 4+ lead on everyone else

6900

[superduper]

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Only 1 guy is over 30 ppg in playoffs

MJ.. plus all the other stuff in the previous post

haven't you been reading the post where MJ sits alone atop the scoring list?. Only MJ is over 30 and he has a 4+ lead on everyone else

The accolades and accomplishments Bran stans make up

"6900 doe!!11!!!!"

[3ball]

6900

how many rings did the 6900 points get?

6900 points and only 3 rings....

so his skills and stats are obviously less effective/"empty" and miss their mark (winning)...

similar to a suboptimal boxer that throws a ton of punches but fails to connect sufficiently, lebron's ball-dominant, stat accumulation prevents his teams from playing a brand that can win frequently..

[superduper]

6900!!

[TheCorporation]

how many rings did the 6900 points get?

6900 points and only 3 rings....

so his skills and stats are obviously less effective/"empty" and miss their mark (winning)...

similar to a suboptimal boxer that throws a ton of punches but fails to connect sufficiently, lebron's ball-dominant, stat accumulation prevents his teams from playing a brand that can win frequently..

Sweet, so Bill Russell is GOAT in your book since MJ also had "empty stats"

Bill Russel
11 rings
2673 points

Cool

You make this TOO easy
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