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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    ITT Jordan stans melting HARD

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016


    I swear this 3ball dude is always making up random restrictions and very specific detailed slices of data to prove a point.

    Person: LeBron scored more points than Jordan on less shots

    3ball: Yes, but in 1995 when he played Shaq in games 1 and 2 MJ scored 80 points with one all-star which was more than LeBron in 2015 when he had two all-starts in game 1 and 2 against a lesser center (Andrew Bogut).

    Me reading it:

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016


    LeBron scored more points than Jordan on less shots
    both Lebron and MJ shot 57-58% true shooting in the playoffs, so why not shoot and score more at that efficiency like MJ did????..

    mj simply DID MORE - more scoring at the same efficiency - MJ actually had better overall efficiency per possession (ORtg, aka offensive rating)

    Ultimately, Lebron has better career totals and MJ did more per game (5 more ppg on equal or better efficiency)

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    both Lebron and MJ shot 57-58% true shooting in the playoffs, so why not shoot and score more at that efficiency like MJ did????..

    mj simply DID MORE - more scoring at the same efficiency - MJ actually had better overall efficiency per possession (ORtg, aka offensive rating)

    Ultimately, Lebron has better career totals and MJ did more per game (5 more ppg on equal or better efficiency)
    LeBron has a better DRtg and a lower USG% and yet still scored MORE points on LESS shots, eclipsing Jordan's once #1 all-time spot

    Baby boy

    And a higher FG%, eFG%, TS% and WS, DBPM and BPM...Do we need to do this dance again? You'll lose every time
    Last edited by SpaceJam2; 04-21-2019 at 11:54 PM.

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    LeBron has a better DRtg and a lower USG% and yet still scored MORE points on LESS shots, eclipsing Jordan's once #1 all-time spot

    Baby boy
    Here's how the creators of the stats say they should be used:

    MJ finished more possessions (usage) at higher efficiency per possession (ortg)

    So you're just throwing stuff together that makes no sense and I'm using the stats the way they're supposed to

    But carry on.. its fun crushing you

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Here's how the creators of the stats say they should be used:

    MJ finished more possessions (usage) at higher efficiency per possession (ortg)

    So you're just throwing stuff together that makes no sense and I'm using the stats the way they're supposed to

    But carry on.. its fun crushing you
    LeBron has a better DRtg and a lower USG% and yet still scored MORE points on LESS shots, eclipsing Jordan's once #1 all-time spot

    Baby boy

    And a higher FG%, eFG%, TS% and WS, DBPM and BPM...Do we need to do this dance again? You'll lose every time.

    More points? Bron
    More game winners? Bron
    Higher elim game ppg? Bron
    Better competition? Bron
    More steals? Bron
    Better defender? Bron
    More efficient scorer? Bron
    More rebounds? Bron
    More steals? Bron
    More assists? Bron

    Better free throw shooter? Jordan
    Faced more soup cans? Jordan

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    WOOOOO!
    - leads in the stats that matter:.[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] PPG, PER, WS/48, USAGE, ORTG, OREB, SPG, FT%. lower TO's

    - most MVP's ever (11)

    - #1 all-time championship frequency since the ABA merger (6 in 15 yrs.. 40.0%.. it's really 6 in 11)

    - best raw stats (only MJ averaged 30/5/5 for career; 10 scoring titles and the best ppg and offensive efficiency of any goat-level wing)

    - best advanced stats (only MJ is top 2 in PER, bpm, vorp, ws/48, and he set the plus-minus record in 96')

    - most seasons with 1st team all-nba and 1st team defense (9 seasons.. and they were consecutive, so the highest frequency of 1st team awards - 19 in 10 seasons)

    - never carried (only guy that was never outscored by a teammate in a playoff series, and MJ led by average margin of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option)

    - only player that never lost with a squad (1 or 2 seed), aka most unbeatable player, aka goat (kareem/lebron/magic, etc lost 6+ times each with 1 or 2 seeds; MJ was 6-0)

    - only player to win multiple rings with just 1 all-star, except Kobe (Pau), Shaq (who had Kobe), and hakeem (when MJ was out of league)

    - best winning stats ever - 33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)

    - Best losing stats ever - 44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense

    - highest gamescores for Finals series ever (all wins); highest gamescore ever for a non-winning series against a goat team (30.6 gamescore vs 86' boston, including a 47 gamescore in game 2, the highest single gamescore ever)

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    LeBron has a better DRtg and a lower USG% and yet still scored MORE points on LESS shots, eclipsing Jordan's once #1 all-time spot

    Baby boy

    And a higher FG%, eFG%, TS% and WS, DBPM and BPM...Do we need to do this dance again? You'll lose every time.

    More points? Bron
    More game winners? Bron
    Higher elim game ppg? Bron
    Better competition? Bron
    More steals? Bron
    Better defender? Bron
    More efficient scorer? Bron
    More rebounds? Bron
    More steals? Bron
    More assists? Bron

    Better free throw shooter? Jordan
    Faced more soup cans? Jordan
    Damn

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    I'd be surprised if JR Smith could remember his teammates from last season.

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    I'd be surprised if JR Smith could remember his teammates from last season.
    Was he joking?

    because Ehlo was the backup..

    Ron Harper started 82 games the year MJ hit "the shot" over Ehlo

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    Damn
    MJ fans in shambles





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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Was he joking?

    because Ehlo was the backup..

    Ron Harper started 82 games the year MJ hit "the shot" over Ehlo
    nope

    MJ dropped 69 on Cavs in 1990, when Ehlo was the starter

    Harper? played 9 games that season

    your too busy riffling to copy/paste, with zero context on the topic

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by scuzzy
    nope

    MJ dropped 69 on Cavs in 1990, when Ehlo was the starter

    Harper? played 9 games that season

    your too busy riffling to copy/paste, with zero context on the topic
    You guys are liars and deny the truth

    Ron Harper was the starter when MJ faced the Cavs in the 88' Playoffs and 89' Playoffs

    Harper was the starter and a budding star from 87-89', but got hurt in 1990

    And Gerald Wilkins was the starter In 1993 when the bulls faced the Cavs again in the playoffs.. Ehlo only started in 1992 playoffs, so that's 1 out of 4 years that MJ faced the Cavs in the playoffs

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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    You guys are liars and deny the truth

    Ron Harper was the starter when MJ faced the Cavs in the 88' Playoffs and 89' Playoffs

    Harper was the starter and a budding star from 87-89', but got hurt in 1990

    And Gerald Wilkins was the starter In 1993 when the bulls faced the Cavs again in the playoffs.. Ehlo only started in 1992 playoffs, so that's 1 out of 4 years that MJ faced the Cavs in the playoffs
    OP's video discussion is on Jordans 69 point game vs Ehlo in 1990

    The game and Ehlo starting




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    Default Re: JR Smith on 90's competition- "We can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup"

    Quote Originally Posted by scuzzy
    OP's video discussion is on Jordans 69 point game vs Ehlo in 1990

    The game and Ehlo starting



    video: 1990 highlights of MJ

    comments: stanly's FUMING about Lebron



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