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Landslide honors
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
These are the things Kobe fans don't want you to see.
These results May shock you!
Viewer discretion is advised:
Ouch
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Neither Kobe nor Raymone comes close to Mike when it comes to the clutch gene, or the killer gene. Kobe's commitment to visual perfection in movement was akin to Michael, but not in terms of actual effectiveness.
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I go HAM
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
These are the things Kobe fans don't want you to see.
These results May shock you!
Viewer discretion is advised:
"Clutch" or nah?
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Banned
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Good results. Kobe can beat me himself, while Lebron needs Ray Allen to bail him out.
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Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
I didn't want to have to drop this on you so early but here it is:
Close it up mods, we're done here
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Local High School Star
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
There were no super spot up shooters and stars near Kobe. Because of that he was defended by 2 and sometimes 3 players. So, it was normal for him to play around 0,4 fg.
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I go HAM
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by BarberSchool
Neither Kobe nor Raymone comes close to Mike when it comes to the clutch gene, or the killer gene. Kobe's commitment to visual perfection in movement was akin to Michael, but not in terms of actual effectiveness.
Yeah that makes sense, I mean LeBron's a better finals performer, has put up much better numbers against much tougher competition, and has more playoff game winners for sure Jordan has the clutch gene
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
80 to 20%, super yikes.
44k people vs one troll with 20 alts on ISH, I'm going with 44k people.
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Cavs for life
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Kobe being clutch is one of the most persistent myths in sport, and it's quite amazing to me, given how much statistical evidence there is against this claim.
I don't even care about the comparisons to Lebron, since Lebron's record is quite mixed on this topic, the base claim about Kobe is the problem here.
Jordan was clutch, Bird was clutch, Reggie was clutch, Kobe was not. What Kobe did was take a ton of shots, make a few of them, and somehow people forgot about all the misses, and only remembered the few makes.
Last edited by BigTicket; 03-21-2019 at 07:39 AM.
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I go HAM
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by BigTicket
Kobe being clutch is one of the most persistent myths in sport, and it's quite amazing to me, given how much statistical evidence there is against this claim.
I don't even care about the comparisons to Lebron, since Lebron's record is quite mixed on this topic, the base claim about Kobe is the problem here.
Jordan was clutch, Bird was clutch, Reggie was clutch, Kobe was not. What Kobe did was take a ton of shots, make a few of them, and somehow people forgot about all the misses, and only remembered the few makes.
Kobe might literally be the most manufactured media Superstar we've ever seen. And yet people just let that go by the wayside.
Seasons above .469 = 0
% in clutch = below league average
MVPs in 20 years = 1
Rapes = 1
Missed playoffs in PRIME = Yes
Blew a 3-1 lead before it was cool = Yes
I mean geeze, I could easily go on but I feel bad at this point. I feel like if I keep dissecting him he'll fall into the top 20
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NBA Legend
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Kobe might literally be the most manufactured media Superstar we've ever seen. And yet people just let that go by the wayside.
Seasons above .469 = 0
% in clutch = below league average
MVPs in 20 years = 1
Rapes = 1
Missed playoffs in PRIME = Yes
Blew a 3-1 lead before it was cool = Yes
I mean geeze, I could easily go on but I feel bad at this point. I feel like if I keep dissecting him he'll fall into the top 20
Lives completely wrecked, kept a virgin with 1000 alts : 1. Wheels
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Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by BigTicket
Kobe being clutch is one of the most persistent myths in sport, and it's quite amazing to me, given how much statistical evidence there is against this claim.
I don't even care about the comparisons to Lebron, since Lebron's record is quite mixed on this topic, the base claim about Kobe is the problem here.
Jordan was clutch, Bird was clutch, Reggie was clutch, Kobe was not. What Kobe did was take a ton of shots, make a few of them, and somehow people forgot about all the misses, and only remembered the few makes.
Oh really?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...ch_situations/
"Clutch" is 2 minutes left with margin of 3 in playoffs,
I will be only talking about Lebron and Kobe, considering these two were heads and shoulders beyond everyone else for their efficiency and volume.
Playoffs:
Lebron
He is 40/106 in clutch situation
His free throw shooting is 49/67
True Shooting is, 49.8%
Assist per 36: 4.2 assists
Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers
Kobe
He is 40/96 in clutch situations.
His free throw shooting is 67/79
His true shooting is 58 %
Assists per 36: 4.3 assists
Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers
Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3.
Lebron
He is 4/23 in clutch situations
His free throw shooting is 10/14
His true shooting is 31%
Assists per 36: 3.7 assists
TO per 36: 3.7 TO
Kobe
He is 10/20 in clutch situations
His free throw shooting is 4/5
His true shooting is 56.4%
Assists per 36: 7.5 assists
TO per 36: 1.5 TO
Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5.
Lebron
17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.
32% EFG
43% TS.
Assists per 36: 4.26
TO per 36: 3.1
Kobe
28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.
46% EFG
53% TS.
Assists per 36: 3.6
TO per 36: 1.08
hes definitely better than lebron. And you really think that with his skills, he wouldnt be clutch?
Last edited by knicksman; 03-21-2019 at 09:10 AM.
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I go HAM
Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Kobe might literally be the most manufactured media Superstar we've ever seen. And yet people just let that go by the wayside.
Seasons above .469 = 0
% in clutch = below league average
MVPs in 20 years = 1
Rapes = 1
Missed playoffs in PRIME = Yes
Blew a 3-1 lead before it was cool = Yes
I mean geeze, I could easily go on but I feel bad at this point. I feel like if I keep dissecting him he'll fall into the top 20
Anyone?
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Re: Kobe DESTROYING Bran in a ESPN poll AGAIN right now...
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Anyone?
what matters is respect. Players want to win to be respected. Thats why ringchasing is only done at the tail end of career coz youre not getting the same respect as winning without it. Thats why kobe is respected by his peers while lebron? Nevermind
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