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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Where do you rank Kobe then?

    He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs

    kobes career isn't built on phoney narratives that he can carry any team to the playoffs


    he has 5 rings and a winning finals record... its lebron whos lost 6 finals and has a losing record that needs the "he makes any team a contender" narrative



    stripping away those 8 straight finals appearances destroys lebrons career. they're no longer looked at as an accomplishment and now appear to be a gift



    it wouldn't matter if kobe/odom/rudy T were healthy in 2005


    we don't rest our case on making any team a finals team


    we rest our case on the 5 titles in 7 tries

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Big LBJ fan here, he would never miss the playoffs, especially since they already started, duh!

    But even if he does I have him hanging around 25. I really like LeBron though, so maybe that's a little too good.

    He's waaaaaay better than Carlos Boozer, but not quite as good as Joe Dumars. That little f'er played mean defense.

    Anyway, you should do a poll!

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Where do you rank Kobe then?

    He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs
    10th, and yes I factored that into my ranking.

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
    kobes career isn't built on phoney narratives that he can carry any team to the playoffs


    he has 5 rings and a winning finals record... its lebron whos lost 6 finals and has a losing record that needs the "he makes any team a contender" narrative



    stripping away those 8 straight finals appearances destroys lebrons career. they're no longer looked at as an accomplishment and now appear to be a gift



    it wouldn't matter if kobe/odom/rudy T were healthy in 2005


    we don't rest our case on making any team a finals team


    we rest our case on the 5 titles in 7 tries
    He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

    If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

    You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

    LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

    If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

    You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

    LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man
    What did LeGOAT do without running away?

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    What did LeGOAT do without running away?
    What did Kobe do without a HOF big?

    **** all

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    What did Kobe do without a HOF big?

    **** all
    Is Pau a HOF if he stayed 0-12ing and beyond in Memphis?

    If your answer is no, ethered
    If your answer is yes, you might be retarded

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    He's top 5-8 all time. Him not making the playoffs is a failure season but not a huge dent on his legacy. Legacy is in tact.

    He's not the GOAT. He's not really top 3. Most people would say he's 4-8. That won't change.

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    6th.... Playoff or not.....

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    What did LeGOAT do without running away?
    He took a scrub team to the Finals

    What did Kobe do without crying his way to the 2nd most successful franchise in NBA history?

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Will still be a top 3 GOAT. Meanwhile, Brick will get kicked out of the top 20 by Curry and KD.

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Hakeem did more with less during his back to back run. Without collusion too. LeBron is in this area, perhaps below him.

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by red1
    Got him falling out of the firm top 12-15 all-time range into a firm top 20-25 all-time range.


    Agree.

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

    If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

    You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

    LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man

    kobe has 5 rings because he saved shaq in 2000 game 7 vs portland leading the lakers in points, rebounds, assists and blocks. then again saving shaq in game 4 of the finals after he fouled out. had they lost that game they would have been down 3-2 going into game 6 since they also lost game 5


    and we all know how kobe dismantled portland/sacramento/sanantonio the next 2 seasons.. its the only reason shaq was able to rig his finals mvps by hogging vs inferior competition


    then he went on to win 2 more titles without shaq to completely solidify his other 3 while shaqs only success was a 3rd option role player ring behind antoine walker while riding the bench behind alonzo mourning throughout the finals in 4th quarters while the refs rigged wade to the line 20 games a night to give him the most fraudulent title in league history behind only 2016 lebron


    kobe never needed shaq. all he needed was a boarderline allstar 18ppg wingman... the 5th lowest rated 2nd option in title history behind only what bill walton, dennis johnson, rick barry and hakeem olajuwon had as sidekicks



    and kobe did it twice ... he's the only guy in history with multiple titles without a top 75 all time sidekick


    kobe bryant is the most skilled player of all time and cemented in the top 5-10 all time. and lebron is a total fraud falling faster than simon on a steep hill with no brakes






    its over f*ckface


    get a new hobby

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    Default Re: How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
    He would exit the top 30, and it breaks my heart...
    I, too, would be saddened.

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