( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time

[Manny98]

1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kobe
4. Curry
5.West
6. Wade
7. Havlicek
8. IT
9. Oscar
10. Nash

[zeerghit]

finals win% is taken into consideration. yes kblaze. where the hell have you been for the last 2 decades

its not the end all be all but it is one factor when comparing guys

magic is 5 for 9 and not 7 for 9 because he literally choked the 1984 finals away


plus he got swept by philly in 1983


how on earth can choking and getting swept be a good thing when you have


- Kareem Abdul Jabbar
- James Worthy
- Jamaal Wilkes
- Bob Mcadoo
- Michael Cooper
- Norm Nixon/Byron Scott



kobe with this f*cking squad doesn't get swept. he doesn't choke. and he plays f*cking defense

how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?

[ImKobe]

We taking the stupid ___/___ argument so far as to actually act like when two people have the same number of rings the one who made less finals had a better career? I didnt think this place could get any worse.......

Kobe played in a tougher Conference. Magic had no real competition to make the Finals in many of his runs in an imbalanced Western Conference and to be fair choked a few times with HCA, once in the first round to a 40-42 Rockets team. It's fair to say that Kobe had to beat better teams to make his 7 Finals and that he won two rings without another all-time great player on his side.

It's a fair argument, and the fact that Magic himself has said that Kobe's the GOAT Laker. Kenneth is an idiot, but it's a fair argument to make.

Ranking is biased anyway, no matter who does it. People have different reasons for ranking players. Some favor rings over stats, others purely look at the talent of the player and most rank players based on team/player fandom and nostalgia.

how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?

Did he lose in the 1st round with HCA? Wasn't he injured in 2005 along with his 2nd best player? How is that peak?

Magic got swept in the 1st round with HCA against a 40-42 team. Kobe put up his team ahead 3 - 1 against one of the contending teams when they had no business doing so, he eliminates that team if his teammates don't give up two wide open threes in the last 20 seconds of the 4th at home in Game 6.

[Manny98]

1. Kobe
2. MJ
3. Magic
4. Wade
5. AI
6. Kyrie
7. Curry
8. T-Mac
9. Harden
10. Westbrook

[Real14]

1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kobe
4. Curry
5.West
6. Wade
7. Havlicek
8. IT
9. Oscar
10. Nash

Good list actually but why nash instead of iverson?

[kennethgriffen]

#1 Jordan
#2 Kobe
#3 Magic
#4 Oscar
#5 West
#6 Zeke
#7 Wade
#8 Curry
#9 Stockton
#10 Iverson

[ImKobe]

I'm not putting Oscar and West into my top 10 because honestly they were wayyy before my time and yours, it's hard to rank them. It's why I don't even bother ranking Wilt & Russell in all-time top 10s, it's pretty impossible to measure their greatness vs. modern NBA basketball. They're on a level of their own.

[Manny98]

Good list actually but why nash instead of iverson?

I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers

[kennethgriffen]

how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?

its about doing what is expected of you. kobe taking the suns to 7 games with kwame and smush is more impressive than magic taking 5-6 hall of famers to the finals only to get swept ... then a year later choke like a b*tch

[Real14]

I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers

What?? If u think that's all he is then you haven't seen him play enough then smh.

[kennethgriffen]

I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers

then why'd you put havlicek on your list. his point per shot was 1.10 ... which is on kobe post achilles rupture/rookie lebron levels of inefficiency

iverson was much more efficient than havlicek


and he was barely ever a shooting guard btw

[Real14]

#1 Jordan
#2 Kobe
#3 Magic
#4 Oscar
#5 West
#6 Zeke
#7 Wade
#8 Curry
#9 Stockton
#10 Iverson

What's with this Stockton shit? He was great but not that great

[Manny98]

then why'd you put havlicek on your list. his point per shot was 1.10 ... which is on kobe post achilles rupture/rookie lebron levels of inefficiency

iverson was much more efficient than havlicek


and he was barely ever a shooting guard btw

That's because there was no 3 point line + Havlicek actually played a team brand of basketball hence 8/8 unlike Iverson

[Real14]

That's because there was no 3 point line + Havlicek actually played a team brand of basketball hence 8/8 unlike Iverson

Team ball? What Iverson did in 01 puts him over havlicek automatically. Look at that 01 Sixers team. Very talentless.

[kennethgriffen]

What's with this Stockton shit? He was great but not that great

stockton basically made karl malone

half of his career is based off of a stocktons creation/getting him open for a mid range jumper



if it wasn't for MJ/refs stockton would have 2 rings


he's one of the best 2way players ever.


stockton was the perfect point guard.. put him on the lakers instead of magic and they win 7 titles out of 9