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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier?
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
The mental gymnastics are so funny from Manny, Lambruh and Dray n Klay as they immediately go to stats when LeBron is losing (epically) or go to the lonely three wins but don't mention stats (cuz he aint that great).
But Jordan's got both stats AND wins.
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by FKAri
How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier?
MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender
So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team
In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender
So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team
In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston
Team of ZERO all-stars >> a team led by 24 year old MJ ?
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender
So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team
In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston
good for mj that pippen saved hi legacy, that little shit couldnt win a game
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by zeerghit
good for mj that pippen saved hi legacy, that little shit couldnt win a game
What does LeGOAT win without running away?
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by superduper
What does LeGOAT win without running away?
Nothing.
And even with collusion and all star help, he goes 3/9.
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Le11th
Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by bullettooth
Nothing.
And even with collusion and all star help, he goes 3/9.
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by superduper
What does LeGOAT win without running away?
What does Kobe win if he doesn't run from Calipari and the NJ Nets on draft day?
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by superduper
What does LeGOAT win without running away?
how about winning against 73-9 team?
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by 3ball
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MJ. 85-87' RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.7 ppg.. 2.0 oreb.. 3.6 dreb.. 5.0 apg.. 2.6 spg.. 1.2 bpg.. 57.1 ts.. 27.8 PER
LBJ 06-08' RS[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.2 ppg.. 1.2 oreb.. 5.9 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 1.4 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 56.3 ts.. 27.2 PER..
MJ was better, yet his teams only got the [COLOR="DarkRed"]8[/COLOR] seed, while lebron got the [COLOR="Navy"]2[/COLOR] seed and a couple 4 seeds.
And MJ's stats are deflated by his injured 86' season (18 games at 25 mpg)
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MJ. 85-87' PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.5 ppg.. 1.9 oreb.. 4.4 dreb.. 6.9 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 1.5 bpg.. 56.0 ts.. 27.4 PER
LBJ 06-08' PO[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.5 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 53.1 ts.. 23.8 PER..
^^^Yet MJ lost in the 1st round and Lebron made Finals... ...
It's safe to say that Jordan's 8 seed casts were much worse than lebron's high seed casts, and therefore lebron's better teams/higher seeds weren't because he was "carrying" his team more
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Games were faster paced and higher scoring in the 80s.
90s was a watered down expansion era, weak competition.
MJ's stats are massively inflated as a result of both.
We keep winning.
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by zeerghit
how about winning against 73-9 team?
With ZERO all stars while GSW had Bogut out, Curry and Igoudala playing injured and Draymond suspended?!
It's almost as if LeBron's entire career has never seen an asterisk!
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by bullettooth
With ZERO all stars while GSW had Bogut out, Curry and Igoudala playing injured and Draymond suspended?!
It's almost as if LeBron's entire career has never seen an asterisk!
'87 Bucks had ZERO all-stars and they outdid 24 year old MJ
It's almost as if MJ would be TMac if it wasn't for David Stern, Pippen and Nike stepping in.
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Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons
Originally Posted by FKAri
'87 Bucks had ZERO all-stars and they outdid 24 year old MJ
It's almost as if MJ would be TMac if it wasn't for David Stern, Pippen and Nike stepping in.
Did you just go to the extent of bringing in NIKE into your MJ meltdowns?!
You pathetic loser!
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