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    Default Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

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    MJ. 85-87' RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.7 ppg.. 2.0 oreb.. 3.6 dreb.. 5.0 apg.. 2.6 spg.. 1.2 bpg.. 57.1 ts.. 27.8 PER
    LBJ 06-08' RS[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.2 ppg.. 1.2 oreb.. 5.9 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 1.4 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 56.3 ts.. 27.2 PER..


    MJ was better, yet his teams only got the [COLOR="DarkRed"]8[/COLOR] seed, while lebron got the [COLOR="Navy"]2[/COLOR] seed and a couple 4 seeds.

    And MJ's stats are deflated by his injured 86' season (18 games at 25 mpg)




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    MJ. 85-87' PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.5 ppg.. 1.9 oreb.. 4.4 dreb.. 6.9 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 1.5 bpg.. 56.0 ts.. 27.4 PER
    LBJ 06-08' PO[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.5 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 53.1 ts.. 23.8 PER..


    ^^^Yet MJ lost in the 1st round and Lebron made Finals... ...

    It's safe to say that Jordan's 8 seed casts were much worse than lebron's high seed casts, and therefore lebron's better teams/higher seeds weren't because he was "carrying" his team more

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier?

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    The mental gymnastics are so funny from Manny, Lambruh and Dray n Klay as they immediately go to stats when LeBron is losing (epically) or go to the lonely three wins but don't mention stats (cuz he aint that great).

    But Jordan's got both stats AND wins.

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri

    How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier?
    MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender

    So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team

    In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender

    So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team

    In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston
    Team of ZERO all-stars >> a team led by 24 year old MJ ?

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    MJ didn't have any decorated teammates like 2-time all-star center or a 22/5/5 steals champion/1st team defender

    So his bulls were the 8 seed instead of defending conference champs and high seed like Lebron's team

    In addition to weaker supporting talent, MJ lacked the defensive personnel to keep the boat afloat while he shit the bed offensively with 26 on 35%... and of course, he was facing a much better version of boston
    good for mj that pippen saved hi legacy, that little shit couldnt win a game

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by zeerghit
    good for mj that pippen saved hi legacy, that little shit couldnt win a game
    What does LeGOAT win without running away?

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    What does LeGOAT win without running away?
    Nothing.

    And even with collusion and all star help, he goes 3/9.

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by bullettooth
    Nothing.

    And even with collusion and all star help, he goes 3/9.

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    What does LeGOAT win without running away?
    What does Kobe win if he doesn't run from Calipari and the NJ Nets on draft day?

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    What does LeGOAT win without running away?
    how about winning against 73-9 team?

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    MJ. 85-87' RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.7 ppg.. 2.0 oreb.. 3.6 dreb.. 5.0 apg.. 2.6 spg.. 1.2 bpg.. 57.1 ts.. 27.8 PER
    LBJ 06-08' RS[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.2 ppg.. 1.2 oreb.. 5.9 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 1.4 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 56.3 ts.. 27.2 PER..


    MJ was better, yet his teams only got the [COLOR="DarkRed"]8[/COLOR] seed, while lebron got the [COLOR="Navy"]2[/COLOR] seed and a couple 4 seeds.

    And MJ's stats are deflated by his injured 86' season (18 games at 25 mpg)




    PO

    MJ. 85-87' PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.5 ppg.. 1.9 oreb.. 4.4 dreb.. 6.9 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 1.5 bpg.. 56.0 ts.. 27.4 PER
    LBJ 06-08' PO[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR].. 27.5 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 53.1 ts.. 23.8 PER..


    ^^^Yet MJ lost in the 1st round and Lebron made Finals... ...

    It's safe to say that Jordan's 8 seed casts were much worse than lebron's high seed casts, and therefore lebron's better teams/higher seeds weren't because he was "carrying" his team more

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    Games were faster paced and higher scoring in the 80s.

    90s was a watered down expansion era, weak competition.

    MJ's stats are massively inflated as a result of both.


    We keep winning.

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by zeerghit
    how about winning against 73-9 team?
    With ZERO all stars while GSW had Bogut out, Curry and Igoudala playing injured and Draymond suspended?!

    It's almost as if LeBron's entire career has never seen an asterisk!

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by bullettooth
    With ZERO all stars while GSW had Bogut out, Curry and Igoudala playing injured and Draymond suspended?!

    It's almost as if LeBron's entire career has never seen an asterisk!
    '87 Bucks had ZERO all-stars and they outdid 24 year old MJ
    It's almost as if MJ would be TMac if it wasn't for David Stern, Pippen and Nike stepping in.

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    Default Re: Ok, let's give Lebron a pass for his first 2 seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    '87 Bucks had ZERO all-stars and they outdid 24 year old MJ
    It's almost as if MJ would be TMac if it wasn't for David Stern, Pippen and Nike stepping in.
    Did you just go to the extent of bringing in NIKE into your MJ meltdowns?!



    You pathetic loser!

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