Wow these numbers can not be true can they?? Is this real or fake?

[Manny98]

Damn all those STATS and still 3/9




Do i hear 'empty stats' chants?

At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)

No one except for Bill Russell and Kareem have won more conference championships than LeBron

No one in the modern era has won more MVPs than LeBron

No one has taken down more superteams than LeBron

No one has led both teams in all categories outside of LeBron

[ImKobe]

we need one for "Most Empty stats in Finals history"

how does the "GOAT" have a 10-year stretch like this in crunch time?



pathetic

[Manny98]

Still clutcher than Kobe in the playoffs

[ImKobe]

since we love reddit so much

Playoffs:

Lebron

He is 40/106 in clutch situation

His free throw shooting is 49/67

True Shooting is, 49.8%

Assist per 36: 4.2 assists

Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers

Kobe

He is 40/96 in clutch situations.

His free throw shooting is 67/79

His true shooting is 58 %

Assists per 36: 4.3 assists

Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers

Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3.

Lebron

He is 4/23 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 10/14

His true shooting is 31%

Assists per 36: 3.7 assists

TO per 36: 3.7 TO

Kobe

He is 10/20 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 4/5

His true shooting is 56.4%

Assists per 36: 7.5 assists

TO per 36: 1.5 TO

Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5.

Lebron

17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.

32% EFG

43% TS.

Assists per 36: 4.26

TO per 36: 3.1

Kobe

28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.

46% EFG

53% TS.

Assists per 36: 3.6

TO per 36: 1.08

It was over in 2017, nothing's changed since then

cherry-pick your Lebron averages, when half the teams he's beat didn't even win 50+ games in the Playoffs, enjoy the stat-padded numbers vs 40-win Pacers teams

[Gileraracer]

At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)

I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them

[Manny98]

I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

[SouBeachTalents]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

You really expect anyone not to bring up Wade winning a title/FMVP

[Gileraracer]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

Yeah, they didn't play toghether prior to playing with Lebron.

[bullettooth]

At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)

No one except for Bill Russell and Kareem have won more conference championships than LeBron

No one in the modern era has won more MVPs than LeBron

No one has taken down more superteams than LeBron

No one has led both teams in all categories outside of LeBron

And he still put up 6 finals losses.

Bona fide loser.

[Manny98]

And he still put up 6 finals losses.

Bona fide loser.

And Jordan is a 3 time 1st round loser whilst LeBron is unbeaten

Where would Jordan be without Pippen and Phil

[And1AllDay]

I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them

What superstars bruh? Pippen and Rodman or Pippen and Grant

[And1AllDay]

And Jordan is a 3 time 1st round loser whilst LeBron is unbeaten

Where would Jordan be without Pippen and Phil

OH we all damn well know he would be like Iverson but taller version or DeMar. They can't act for a minute that MJ is anything without Pippen and Jackson and Rodman and Kukoc and Kerr and Harper all on the same team just to take down Hornacek

[And1AllDay]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

Exactly, this only helps the argument if anything

Wade was a superstar for 2011 (one year) when the Heat team was at its weakest. Then by 2012 and 2013 the team was better but Wade was not a superstar and Bosh fell off.

[Manny98]

Jordan's career record without Scottie Pippen is 182-228. That includes his Washington Wizard days.

During his tenure with the Bulls, his record was 108-138.

In 1987, 37/5.2/4.6 with 2.9 steals per game and 1.5 blocks on 56% TS. Incredible, right? Yeah, the team finished under .500, including getting swept by the Celtics. That was Jordan at 23, along with his 3rd consecutive playoff trip.

At 23, LeBron averaged 30/7.9/7.2 with 1.8 steals per game and 1.1 blocks on 56% TS. The difference? The team finished 45-37, and went to Game 7 with the Celtics. The previous year, LeBron dragged a disgusting Cavalier team to a 50-32 record and to the Finals. Jordan at 22? Swept once again.

Jordan's playoff record without Pippen? 2-9. (One in his rookie year, and one against Philly in 1990.

Not trying to argue anything, just showing some numbers.

[And1AllDay]

Just imagine it, "not clutch" but having more game winners then Kobe and Jordan combined



If Bron aint clutch then what does that say about Jordan who has less game winners on less effciency?

Checkmate bruh