Remember when Kobe beat the Spurs all by himself?

[Hey Yo]

Kobe played much better against the Spurs than lebron

Making excuses for age is weak..

lebron was in his 4th season - that's more than enough - so we're supposed to give lebron a pass for his first 2 years AND the next 2? So his first 4 years he gets a pass? gtfo.. lebron was horrible against the Spurs because he wasn't as good as kobe

I didn't bring up age, the Kobe guzzler did. All I did was provide facts.

If only LeBron got to face Avery Johnson and Terry Porter at their combined ages of 72. Then throw in 34yr old Danny Ferry every now and again.

So brutal for 2nd option Kobe.....

[72-10]

Yes, and I also remember all the times he chucked his team out of games.

[3ball]

Damn, thats a hard shut down

22 ppg on 36%

That's the only shutdown needed in this debate

That kind of performance can't be excused regardless of opponent, and it exposed lebron's weak jumpshot and inability to adjust to defenses - this continued for 4 more years in 2008-2011 playoffs, where he had horrible personal performance and/or upset loss each year

Only in recent years as the league softened the rules to allow record ortg and efficiency, has lebron posted his best playoff stats, despite declining athletically

[warriorfan]

OKC had 3 All-NBA players plus 6MOTY

try again....

Wrong. OKC and Heat both had 2 All NBA players.

www.basketballreference.com

I hope you made a mistake and are not resorting to making shit up and lying

[Hey Yo]

Wrong. OKC and Heat both had 2 All NBA players.

www.basketballreference.com

I hope you made a mistake and are not resorting to making shit up and lying

Didn't make a mistake, nor am I lying. Your link provides nothing.

http://www.nba.com/history/awards/all-nba-teams/

https://www.slamonline.com/archives/...fensive-teams/

Like I said, 3 All NBA players..... which includes a few tidbits I forgot.... runner-up for DPOY and league leader in blocks.

[FKAri]

No. I'll keep checking up on this thread to see if any proof of this emerges though.

[stalkerforlife]

Wrong. OKC and Heat both had 2 All NBA players.

www.basketballreference.com

I hope you made a mistake and are not resorting to making shit up and lying

Wow.

Brutal.

[Dray n Klay]

Kobe had a super team and got swept by the Spurs in 2013

[NBASTATMAN]

I didn't bring up age, the Kobe guzzler did. All I did was provide facts.

If only LeBron got to face Avery Johnson and Terry Porter at their combined ages of 72. Then throw in 34yr old Danny Ferry every now and again.

So brutal for 2nd option Kobe.....

The only SPURS team that The Lakers ever beat that had good talent and were healthy was the 2004 SPURS..

In 2008 Manu could barely play and was horrible in every game except game three.. In 2007 when Lebron and Cavs played a better spurs team Manu was fine and Lebron's starting two guard Hughes was out with an ankle fracture.

[NBASTATMAN]

22 ppg on 36%

That's the only shutdown needed in this debate

That kind of performance can't be excused regardless of opponent, and it exposed lebron's weak jumpshot and inability to adjust to defenses - this continued for 4 more years in 2008-2011 playoffs, where he had horrible personal performance and/or upset loss each year

Only in recent years as the league softened the rules to allow record ortg and efficiency, has lebron posted his best playoff stats, despite declining athletically

Kobe was worse in 2000 and in 2004 .. When you consider he had the MOST DOMINANT PLAYER EVER playing with him it becomes laughable..

I dont bring up MJ cuz IMO he is the GOAT..

And I use Kobe cuz its so easy to shit on him.

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn, reminds me of when Shaq won the Finals by himself with his 2nd option averaging a pathetic 16 ppg on 37%

[aj1987]

That's the point. The competition in the WC was much tougher, hence the top seeds had less wins with all Playoff teams having 50+ wins, a very even, stacked Conference, hence the Spurs dropping in SRS and slightly in wins.

Are you on crack or a cocktail of drugs? No one can honestly be as retarded as you. Even if you want to go on your insane ramblings about the WC becoming "much tougher" in just one year, all this still stands:

2007 Spurs:

ORtg - 5th in the League

DRtg - 2nd in the League

Team PPG - 15th in the League

Opp PPG - 1st in the League


2008 Spurs:

ORtg - 15th in the League

DRtg - 3rd in the League

Team PPG - 28th in the League

Opp PPG - 3rd in the League

Look, you can make excuses for your king all you want, but he couldn't check Parker nor could he check Manu in 07 and it didn't help that he was anemic on offense as well.

Look, you can try to hype up your choker all you want, but the FACT remains that he's a borderline top 15 player, while LeBron is a top 3 GOAT.

Fun Fact - The +/- stat that you love proves that Brick was a net negative defender throughout his career. Couldn't get out of the first round without a HOF big either.

[Skip_Bayless]

with 0 all-star teammates & in 5 games no less

Why did Lebron get swept by the same Spurs team?

Lebron's 2nd option - 12.8 ppg 50%FG
Kobe's 2nd option - 13.2 ppg 44.6%FG

one team got swept and the other won in 5 games

Kobe - 29.2 ppg 53.3%FG
Lebron - 22.0 ppg 35.6%FG

Duncan against the Cavs - 18/12/4
Duncan against the Lakers - 22/17/5

Please stop comparing manufactured superstars (LeBron with twice as many finals loses as wins) that don't play a winning brand of basketball to those who do (3 rings as the man, one as the 1A / 1B, one as the sidekick)

It's just not fair and it causes people to catch feelings over it. Look at how many meltdowns you are causing. The meltdowns will be even worse once LeBron retires and "top 3" is never mentioned again in NBA history. It's all caught up in the moment feelings. People were saying Kobe was better than MJ back in the day and look how that turned out. People saying LBJ is better than Kobe will go through the same realization after they are no longer caught up in the moment. Both have 3 rings as the man, yet Kobe has another ring as the 1B option and yet another one as the side kick. He's just a better winner than LeBron on the finals stage, period much like Duncan is a better winner than LeBron. It's just a bunch of caught up in the moment nonsense over a 6 time NBA finals choker. Nothing more.

[aj1987]

Please stop comparing manufactured superstars (LeBron with twice as many finals loses as wins) that don't play a winning brand of basketball to those who do (3 rings as the man, one as the 1A / 1B, one as the sidekick)

It's just not fair and it causes people to catch feelings over it. Look at how many meltdowns you are causing. The meltdowns will be even worse once LeBron retires and "top 3" is never mentioned again in NBA history. It's all caught up in the moment feelings. People were saying Kobe was better than MJ back in the day and look how that turned out. People saying LBJ is better than Kobe will go through the same realization after they are no longer caught up in the moment. Both have 3 rings as the man, yet Kobe has another ring as the 1B option and yet another one as the side kick. He's just a better winner than LeBron on the finals stage, period much like Duncan is a better winner than LeBron. It's just a bunch of caught up in the moment nonsense over a 6 time NBA finals choker. Nothing more.

What a meltdown. Brick is a couple to tiers below LeBron. Deal with it.


BTW, did your egokiller account get banned as well, bitch boy?

[DaHeezy]

Please stop comparing manufactured superstars (LeBron with twice as many finals loses as wins) that don't play a winning brand of basketball to those who do (3 rings as the man, one as the 1A / 1B, one as the sidekick)

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Says the guy who just replied to 3 threads (maybe more) with his feeling hurt over Lebron. Some in threads that don't even include Lebron!

The hypocrisy of this dude is epic!