Lebron went to his first finals at age 23...

[Andrei89]

So?

Kawhi at age 22 went to the finals and actually won, whilst also collecting fmvp, against this overrated bum you're talking about and his roided up collusion buddies...whilst playing with 3 corpses and role players.

End.fvcking.thread.

Do you even think before you start writing garbage?

[BigShotBob]

Didn't Boobie Gibson score like 38 points to get the Cavs to the Finals?

[PP34Deuce]

ISH gets worse and worse..... Trolls are funny but emotional trolls are dangerous to humanity and sad.

[Real14]

Didn't Boobie Gibson score like 38 points to get the Cavs to the Finals?

Facts. Another closer for Lebron.

[Spurs m8]

Do you even think before you start writing garbage?

Point out where I'm wrong you fvckin dvmbcvnt....

[3ball]

Bicycle riding and basketball, I'm trying to find the correlation...

By the way I've noticed you forgot to add Baron Davis' best years to your calculations...was 2007 the year he played with Bron?



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...13&postcount=5

5 star the thread also.

2007 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 [COLOR="White"]t[/COLOR]DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

2018 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #14 SRS.. 50 wins.. 4 seed
2018 [COLOR="White"]t[/COLOR]TOR:[COLOR="White"].lt[/COLOR] #2 SRS.. 59 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]n[/COLOR]#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed

^^^ Jordan's 89' upset matches lebron's 18', and both exceed 07'... But MJ did more with less, since his 6 seed took the champs 6 games, while lebron's 2 and 4 seeds had record sweeps.

Also, MJ only lost to 1 and 2 seeds as the underdog, while lebron lost to a couple 3 seeds and a 4 seed, all as the heavy favorite.. so MJ did more with less

Finally,

Jordan 1989:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33/8/8.. 47 wins
Lebron 2007:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27/7/7.. 50 wins
Lebron 2009:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28/8/7.. 66 wins

^^^^ This was the case every year from 85-89 versus 06-10, where MJ's greater stats resulted in lesser wins.. the only explanation for lebron getting more wins with less stats is that his better cast made up the gap

[3ball]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg

[sixerfan82]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg

Was that the year Ewing went down and Houston/Sprewell got them to the 8th seed and then he came back?

[bigkingsfan]

Compared to prime MJ losing in the 2nd round to a team that was swept in the finals.

[SouBeachTalents]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg

I'd never dispute that wasn't an awesome run, but the Knicks were far from your typical 8 seed. They had been a perennial ECSF/ECF team for nearly a decade, and had the season been 82 games I'd be shocked if they remained in the 8 spot

[3ball]

I'd never dispute that wasn't an awesome run, but the Knicks were far from your typical 8 seed. [COLOR="Navy"]They had been a perennial ECSF/ECF team for nearly a decade[/COLOR], and had the season been 82 games I'd be shocked if they remained in the 8 spot

Sounds like lebron's 18' Cavs - yet you still give them props for making the Finals

That's where stats can be deceiving - the stats in post #21 above say that lebron's 18' run was a bigger upset than his 07'... but like you said - lebron's team was 7-time, defending conference champs that had a tumultuous RS..

so lebron's 07' run with a young, inexperienced team was far tougher than his 18' run with a bunch of experienced vets... And both were inferior to MJ's 89' run, as the stats show, as does circumstance (young, low seed)
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['Toine=MVP]

It has been well documented that LeBron has had the easiest playoff opponents of all time. Cupcakes if you will including that 73 win team that proved to be one of the biggest cupcake finals teams ever.

[3ball]

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[COLOR="Navy"]Change the thread title to: "Lebron first played a champion and #1 defense at 23:"[/COLOR]

Jordan vs 86' Celts:[COLOR="White"].l[/COLOR] 44 ppg on 59%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22 ppg on 36%

[superduper]

It has been well documented that LeBron has had the easiest playoff opponents of all time. Cupcakes if you will including that 73 win team that proved to be one of the biggest cupcake finals teams ever.

King James Harden is single handedly, by himself, proving that the GSW were highly over rated and nowhere close to this "unbeatable greatest team of all time that no one man can beat".

King James 1v9'd those fools including vs refs + Silver and still absolutely owned their souls.

There are no more excuses for our LeGOAT

[tpols]

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[COLOR="Navy"]Change the thread title to: "Lebron first played a champion and #1 defense at 23:"[/COLOR]

Jordan vs 86' Celts:[COLOR="White"].l[/COLOR] 44 ppg on 59%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22 ppg on 36%

didn't larry bird literally call Jordan God after that series?

I wonder what timmy thought of lebron after his.