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    Default James harden = most underrated player ever

    This video says it beautifully

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPa49XHTPOE

    Okc never touched the finals without him.

    Rockets cant touch the playoffs without him

    Leads his team in most catagories.


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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by NZStreetBaller
    This video says it beautifully

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPa49XHTPOE

    Okc never touched the finals without him.

    Rockets cant touch the playoffs without him

    Leads his team in most catagories.

    only rockets fans love to pay to see someone practise FT, dwight and josh and harden.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    He should've been on an All-NBA team. I agree.

    However, 29ppg amd 7.5apg sounds great, until you see .439 FG% and 4.6 TOV. He's putting up a lot of shots for his points and he's wasting a lot of the ball for those assists.

    Give me Paul, Curry, or Westbrook any day over Harden. They don't throw up bricks and they are more careful with the ball. They also give effort of defense, despite working just as hard on offense. Most importantly they help their team win. I'd also take Lillard's 2016 over Harden's any day of the week. He may not have had the numbers, but he got 44 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 34. Harden got 41 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 50+.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve
    He should've been on an All-NBA team. I agree.

    However, 29ppg amd 7.5apg sounds great, until you see .439 FG% and 4.6 TOV. He's putting up a lot of shots for his points and he's wasting a lot of the ball for those assists.

    Give me Paul, Curry, or Westbrook any day over Harden. They don't throw up bricks and they are more careful with the ball. They also give effort of defense, despite working just as hard on offense. Most importantly they help their team win. I'd also take Lillard's 2016 over Harden's any day of the week. He may not have had the numbers, but he got 44 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 34. Harden got 41 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 50+.
    Is 44% fg really that bad? Didn't kobe average that?

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AirBonner
    Is 44% fg really that bad? Didn't kobe average that?
    No, it's not.

    But since there's nothing else statistically you can point to...

    Because we know PG shot 42%, Lowry shot 43%, Lillard shot 42%, and Westbrook shot 45%.

    And they all made an all-NBA team.

    What else can you bash him for? Dude had 34, 17, and 8 last night. Yes, he had 7 TO's, but given his usage (and his +10 +/-) I'd say he more than makes up for it.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve
    He should've been on an All-NBA team. I agree.

    However, 29ppg amd 7.5apg sounds great, until you see .439 FG% and 4.6 TOV. He's putting up a lot of shots for his points and he's wasting a lot of the ball for those assists.
    westbrook will be lucky to get those numbers this season, he should maybe do a little better in assists, but it will be high volume points with a low FG%, and there's a ton of people picking him as MVP.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AirBonner
    Is 44% fg really that bad? Didn't kobe average that?
    For most of his prime I think Kobe was more like 46%, but anyway you're right, 44% isn't that terrible. My point was mainly that his gaudy numbers aren't as impressive when you consider his efficiency.

    I did say that I thought Harden should have been on an All NBA team, I was just trying to point out that his season wasn't as historic as the dude in the video tries to make out. And so it wasn't as historic an All NBA snub as he suggests. It was a snub for sure, but I understand the rational of him not being there. His team under performed.

    Also you can make solid cases for both Lowry and Klay over Harden. Lowry led the Raptors to 56 wins, and Klay was part of the most epic backcourt ever and he played defense.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve
    For most of his prime I think Kobe was more like 46%
    Kobe only shot 46% in 7 of 20 seasons. link

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    He's gonna put up monster numbers this year. Although the TOs will mount also. Not too worried about that though, he literally has the ball in his hands damn near every possession. I think he accounted for like 80 something of the Rockets points last night. Insane.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve
    He should've been on an All-NBA team. I agree.

    However, 29ppg amd 7.5apg sounds great, until you see .439 FG% and 4.6 TOV. He's putting up a lot of shots for his points and he's wasting a lot of the ball for those assists.

    Give me Paul, Curry, or Westbrook any day over Harden. They don't throw up bricks and they are more careful with the ball. They also give effort of defense, despite working just as hard on offense. Most importantly they help their team win. I'd also take Lillard's 2016 over Harden's any day of the week. He may not have had the numbers, but he got 44 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 34. Harden got 41 wins out of a team that was supposed to get 50+.
    he had a 60% TS and a turnover rate of 16% which isn't bad at all. and a 60% TS is great scoring efficiency. i have no idea why you're using useless archaic numbers fg% and to's per game. 2016 harden's problem was his awful defense and crap leadership/intangibles...his offense was amazing as ever.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by NZStreetBaller
    This video says it beautifully

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPa49XHTPOE

    Okc never touched the finals without him.

    Rockets cant touch the playoffs without him

    Leads his team in most catagories.

    AND THE WORST DEFENDER IN THE LEAUGE

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Harden would more highly regarded if he actually played defense and didn't have games where he's completely ineffective.

    He'll go unbelievably cold or turn into a turnover machine for the entire game. It's hard to watch when this happens, but otherwise he's a fantastic offensive player. Kinda like the Steve Nash of SG's except with Corey Maggette's skills at getting to the FT line.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by NZStreetBaller
    This video says it beautifully

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPa49XHTPOE

    Okc never touched the finals without him.

    Rockets cant touch the playoffs without him

    Leads his team in most catagories.


    Rockets can't touch the playoffs without the player they built their team around...nooo...really?

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    Stop this nonsense. His TS% is 60%. Thats elite.

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    Default Re: James harden = most underrated player ever

    I still believe that he didn't make an All-NBA team last season putting up 29/6/8. Ridiculous. Getting that Wade treatment.

    This is coming from someone who absolutely detests him, BTW.

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