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Our lord and saviour
Best Ringless Coach
# Only coachs who have 10 years under their belt or are retired from coaching
Off the top of my head..
I'm thinking it's between Jerry Sloan and George Karl?
Jerry Sloan has two Final appearences and Karl only one I think, but Karl is one of the longest tentured head coachs.
Who do you guys got?
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by BigKAT
# Only coachs who have 10 years under their belt or are retired from coaching
Off the top of my head..
I'm thinking it's between Jerry Sloan and George Karl?
Jerry Sloan has two Final appearences and Karl only one I think, but Karl is one of the longest tentured head coachs.
Who do you guys got?
You're obviously talking all-time, not current. If it were current, I might throw Stan Van Gundy's name out there. His teams are always very well coached and he was close a couple times.
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Local High School Star
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Our lord and saviour
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
You're obviously talking all-time, not current. If it were current, I might throw Stan Van Gundy's name out there. His teams are always very well coached and he was close a couple times.
That's an interesting pick.
Didn't even think about the guy,
Definetly a great coach. Got the most out of that 09' Magic squad.
Is he in the conversation for the best though?
Originally Posted by Achilleas
rick adelman
Yeah. He was definetly close in 02'. I loved that coach though he didn't have much success with my wolves.
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but what am I?
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Van Gundy and Adelman are good, but Sloan is the correct pick.
I also want to throw out Larry Bird. Stopped coaching by choice, but he was excellent. 3 years of coaching, 68.7% record. In the 2 full length seasons he coached, the Pacers won 58 and 56 games. In the lockout shortened season, Pacers won 33 of 50. In 98, Bird's rookie coaching season, the Pacers went to an epic game 7 against the Bulls in the Conference Finals, then they lost in the Conference Finals to the Knicks in 1999, and in his 3rd and Final season as a coach he helped the Pacers get to the Finals where they lost to the Lakers.
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Our lord and saviour
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by I know you are
Van Gundy and Adelman are good, but Sloan is the correct pick.
I also want to throw out Larry Bird. Stopped coaching by choice, but he was excellent. 3 years of coaching, 68.7% record. In the 2 full length seasons he coached, the Pacers won 58 and 56 games. In the lockout shortened season, Pacers won 33 of 50. In 98, Bird's rookie coaching season, the Pacers went to an epic game 7 against the Bulls in the Conference Finals, then they lost in the Conference Finals to the Knicks in 1999, and in his 3rd and Final season as a coach he helped the Pacers get to the Finals where they lost to the Lakers.
Bird's a great addition to this discussion.
Any idea why he quit after three successful years?
Kinda odd to think the guy was so good and just stopped so soon.
Impatience?
Maybe he saw that Shaq/Kobe dynasty in the making and lost his motivation?
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Great college starter
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Our lord and saviour
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by feyki
Don Nelson .
Pulled one of the greatest upests in history.
On his former team no less.
Definetly up there.
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National High School Star
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Cotton Fitzsimmons used to be in the conversation for one of the best coaches without a ring.
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College superstar
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by BigKAT
# Only coachs who have 10 years under their belt or are retired from coaching
Off the top of my head..
I'm thinking it's between Jerry Sloan and George Karl?
Jerry Sloan has two Final appearences and Karl only one I think, but Karl is one of the longest tentured head coachs.
Who do you guys got?
Yes Sloan is up there because he proved he can win with different lineups esp post Stockton/Malone.
Van Gundy bros.
Then I have a different set for regular seasons. Guys like Nelson and Saunders.
I'm on the fence now on Adelman because of the Twolves debacle. I'm not sure though about Bird cuz he relied so heavily on Carlisle
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The Puppeteer
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NBA lottery pick
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Rick Adelman because Stern/refs robbed his ring in 2002.
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but what am I?
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by BigKAT
Bird's a great addition to this discussion.
Any idea why he quit after three successful years?
Kinda odd to think the guy was so good and just stopped so soon.
Impatience?
Maybe he saw that Shaq/Kobe dynasty in the making and lost his motivation?
I had to look it up. This is from early June of 2000:
When Bird said he would do this for three years, his boss wasn't convinced. "And I don't think he was at that point," said Donnie Walsh, the Pacers' president. "I probably, more than anyone, tried to let him know what the lifestyle of a coach was.... I wanted him to know, before he took the job, that once you start the season, you really don't have a life. It's all-encompassing.
"I think he has grown to see that," Walsh said. "He has options. So he's not like the rest of us. Whether it's all-encompassing or not and we have a life or not, we keep going because that's what we do."
Within the organization, the question about Bird's coaching future ended before the season began. Bird told Walsh last summer that this would be his final season. "When he says it, I believe it," Walsh said. "And I don't try to talk him out of anything, and I think he's the same way with me."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...-finals-knicks
Apparently he stated he would only coach for 3 years when he took the job, and then stayed true to it. He confirmed it heading into his 3rd year.
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Our lord and saviour
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Originally Posted by I know you are
That's some resolve.
Especially after coming so close to a title.
But I just don't think 3 years is enough to cement him as the greatest ringless coach.
But then again, longetivity might not be a plus in this discussion.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Best Ringless Coach
Nelson
he was the inventor of Small Ball ... I think he is 2nd in wins as well
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