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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by aj1987
whats so funny about that ?
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Atkinson Fam Head
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by tpols
whats so funny about that ?
I view Ginobili as a phenomenal 4th Q player over his career. I was a supporter of those mid-2000s Detroit teams and I still remember his absolute utter DAGGER 3 with like 2 minutes left in Game 7, and how all-time ice cold he was in big moments. The big 3 he hit vs. Dallas could've generated a 3peat if he didn't then turn around and foul Dirk. Big moments against the Nets when we played them. Playoffs, RS, was always great in crunch time IMO.
But... Heat fans have fond memories of his 4th quarter ways in 2013 when his poor play and unforced TO's effectively decided a series so I can't blame AJ in the least.
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Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by SsKSpurs21
me too.. should have known better...
Yea I feel stupid
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by ScalsFan21
I view Ginobili as a phenomenal 4th Q player over his career. I was a supporter of those mid-2000s Detroit teams and I still remember his absolute utter DAGGER 3 with like 2 minutes left in Game 7, and how all-time ice cold he was in big moments. The big 3 he hit vs. Dallas could've generated a 3peat if he didn't then turn around and foul Dirk. Big moments against the Nets when we played them. Playoffs, RS, was always great in crunch time IMO.
But... Heat fans have fond memories of his 4th quarter ways in 2013 when his poor play and unforced TO's effectively decided a series so I can't blame AJ in the least.
yup.. add in his performance against team USA in 2004, destroying a peak duncan head to head in the olympics to the tune of 29/3/3 to Timmy's 10/6.. Dagger 4 point play on young d wade as well.
if aj was watchin long enough to see it, it would have burned his soul.
Ginobili is one of the smartest, clutchest players of all time.. I dont hold 2013 against him too much when he was beat up and old.
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RENT FREE
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Gino has been terrible in the clutch for years and years.
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College superstar
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Frank has never gotten over Duncan beating his Knicks.
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Let's Talks Numbers
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by tpols
yup.. add in his performance against team USA in 2004, destroying a peak duncan head to head in the olympics to the tune of 29/3/3 to Timmy's 10/6.. Dagger 4 point play on young d wade as well.
if aj was watchin long enough to see it, it would have burned his soul.
Ginobili is one of the smartest, clutchest players of all time.. I dont hold 2013 against him too much when he was beat up and old.
Anybody that has watched basketball since AT LEAST 2003 know what type of player Manu was. Explosive, crafty and clutch.
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Knicks all da way
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by rmt
Frank has never gotten over Duncan beating his Knicks.
Isola trolls the Knicks as much as anyone does. I have a hard time believing he's a Knicks fan. Or maybe he just hates Phil
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Knicks all da way
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by kurple
Duncan's last 10 games came in the playoffs, while Kobe won them game #16 of the season in his last game
Oh yeah? And how important was Duncan in those playoff games? dude had 0 points in a playoff game this year.
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MH!
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by tpols
whats so funny about that ?
I was laughing at his idiocy.
Originally Posted by tpols
if aj was watchin long enough to see it, it would have burned his soul.
I can name dozens of players who were/are more clutch than Ginobili. It's like you guys have selective memory. If you ignore all of Kobe's failures in the clutch, he'd be viewed as one of the most clutch players ever as well. Same with LeBron, Wade, etc..
Originally Posted by ScalsFan21
But... Heat fans have fond memories of his 4th quarter ways in 2013 when his poor play and unforced TO's effectively decided a series so I can't blame AJ in the least.
You can't ignore his failures.
Last edited by aj1987; 07-16-2016 at 03:20 AM.
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Atkinson Fam Head
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Definitely not. I just think on a whole, Manu wasn't the kind of guy to be negatively affected by the moment. Someone who all things considered I would give the ball to for a key possession in a game or the last shot. Like anyone he has failures in big spots but during his prime he was a killer. Even during his worst moments I don't think I'd attribute the word "choke" to him so much as just playing poorly. 2013 Finals was an unmitigated disaster though, no doubt about it. So many momentum-crippling examples of bad play that series.
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College superstar
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Mind you, there's not many with more heart than Manu, but his head turns to mush when he's tired. Two HUGE mistakes - Dirk's foul and not running clock vs Heat (instead charging into opponent and picking up offensive foul) but you gotta take the good with the bad and Manu's done a lot of good through the years.
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Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
We shouldnt be surprised about aj laughing and thinking that was stupid.. any history outside of his boy DWade, he isnt very fond with.
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Since 1974
Re: Frank Isola SHUTS DOWN Kobe vs Duncan arguments
Originally Posted by ScalsFan21
Aw, come on guys, you should know better. No one outside of the insane asylum could ever articulate a legitimate argument for Kobe > Duncan, I'm surprised you expected Isola of all people to be able to.
Wow. .. we agree.
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