did lebron really sub himself out of a game and leave his team with only 4 players

[kennethgriffin]

sorry i havent been fallowing much cleveland stuff this year. but did this really happen?


btw i would like to congratulate my Ottawa Redblacks on making it to the 2015 grey cup final today in only their 2nd year since expansion






2015 Most outstanding player award = Henry Burris





epic game winning touchdown throw

[buddha]

da **** is a redblack?

[kennethgriffin]

da **** is a redblack?

its like a euro league team but with football in canada

its crap compared to the nfl.. but their games are exciting

[Nash]

so you started a thread about one thing and ended it up with something completely different?

You have the attention span of a, well, retard.

[kennethgriffin]

We asked Jeff Hunt to submit us a column explaining the Ottawa Sports & Entertainment Group's choice for the CFL team name. Here is his column:

When we announced we were looking for a team name, we heard from the universe. We had lots of suggestions.

At an event we had at the Grey Cup, at Real Sports in Toronto, a guy said: 'What about Red and Blacks?' I said Red and Blacks is a bit wordy, how about just RedBlacks? It was one of those casual conversations that was relatively unremarkable.

I went from that right to dinner with some of my partners. I happened to be sitting right across from Bill Shenkman. I said, 'Hey, what do you think of the name RedBlacks?' We call him Blunt Bill because he's not afraid to speak his mind. He immediately said he liked it. He kind of took more ownership in that name than I did.

We hired Downstream. We started with a wall of names. We had some very specific criteria that we wanted to achieve. We wanted a name that was authentic to Ottawa. I didn't want to take the name Bears or Nationals -- or any other prominent existing sports names. We wanted something distinctive, unique and authentic to Ottawa.

And obviously translation was a factor, a big factor.

Any name that started with R gave us the possibility of preserving that iconic R on the helmet. When I called Russ Jackson, Tony Gabriel as well, to share the name, I wanted them to buy in ... I told them, 'It keeps that R on the helmet.' That immediately struck a chord with those guys and I started to feel like we were onto something.

We still had this wall of names. We started to pick them off one at a time.

We put out five names for focus groups. It wasn't five names just for the sake of it. Every one of those names we were seriously considering. Let's just say going into it, if we had thought one of the choices was the fifth-most popular and the focus groups were overwhelming to that name, we would have had to take that seriously.

We started to narrow in on RedBlacks. Red stands for desire, black stands for power. One of the things I did not know, in the mid- to late-1870s, when the Rough Riders started, one of the thoughts is they were named after the Roosevelt Rough Riders. They took the red and black colours from this regiment. I believe those colours influenced the colours of every Ottawa sports team since. I thought, what a tribute to Ottawa sports history -- even if you think about the guards on the Hill with their red and black colouring. It's just so synonymous with Ottawa history.

There was a realization within our partnership group that the name only worked if we could come up with a logo that was appropriate.

We had the name RedBlacks. And when we saw the sawblade, it was like, 'Aha, this is it.'

The sawblade is a tribute to Ottawa's heritage as a logging town. The sawblade is menacing, scary. Wait until you see the image on a huge jumbotron, the logo sawing through the opposition logo.

When we got down to five names and conducted the focus groups. I remember our ad agency saying RedBlacks is the most courageous choice -- there are easier ones. It's unique, it's not a name like Voyageurs or Gladiators or something. There's no obvious logo. But they thought long-term there was a lot we could do with that name.

I don't want to get overly philosophical, but when they said it was the more courageous choice, I said maybe that's our first move as a football team is to do something courageous. I like that. We could have picked a name that wouldn't garner the same extremes of reaction.

I've heard people say it's a made-up word. I put that in the asset column. I didn't want a me-too name. We knew it was going to have a little more extreme reaction than if we picked something a little more vanilla.

It's unorthodox, without precedent. I know we'll take flak no matter what name we picked. It has inspired emotion. We've seen that already. I hope that's something we stand for as a team.

i guess this explains why theyre called the redblacks

i really dont care enough to read it

[kennethgriffin]

so you started a thread about one thing and ended it up with something completely different?

You have the attention span of a, well, retard.

lebrons boring these days.. his team is irrelevant. i just wanted a way to show love for my redblacks