Curry's first 13 games vs. MJ's most efficient months

[AlphaWolf24]

Weak D 80's....and Watered down 90's...might as well show Wilt Chamberlain dominating rec league talent.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

15 years from now, Curry will be considered the GOAT and Jordan will be a mere afterthought.

[3ball]

How about Adrian Dantley?

Nov 1979: 32.1 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 2.8 apg on 65.3 %FG/70.4 %TS

Feb 1981: 31.9 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.8 apg on 58.9 %FG/64.6 %TS

Jan 1982: 33.2 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 5.1 apg on 61.6 %FG/66.2 %TS

Apr 1982: 32.4 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.4 apg on 67.5 %FG/71.2 %TS

Not enough love - on ALL TWO'S you lames

Curry overrated AF

[ShawkFactory]

Not enough love - on ALL TWO'S you lames

Curry overrated AF

Poor. Fvcking. Guy

[3ball]

Poor. Fvcking. Guy

[COLOR="Navy"]Seriously - take away the 3-point line from today's game - do you think everyone is still drooling over Curry???... Curry would be an afterthought.. He'd still be a good player, but nowhere near what he is now (the best player in the game).[/COLOR]

In the 70's, half of Curry's shots would morph from the highest efficiency shot in the game (a Curry 3-pointer at 44%), to the lowest efficiency shot in the game (a long two at 44%).

That means he'd be materially worse in eras that didn't have a 3-point line - period... I'm comfortable with these facts... But they seem to be getting under your skin.

[sd3035]

Curry has easily surpassed Jordan offensively and this 3ball dude is shook is hell

[3ball]

Curry has easily surpassed Jordan offensively and this 3ball dude is shook is hell

.... MJ didn't need the 3-point line to average 30+

[Funktion]

Curry vs MJ will always be apples to oranges.

Bron vs MJ is a better debate. Would MJ thrive defensively in this era? Would MJ be more dominant in a modern touch foul NBA over the defenses he had to overcome? Would Lebron be able to put up big numbers vs defenses in the 80s?

[3ball]

Per 100 Possession stats in playoffs:

JORDAN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. [COLOR="blue"]32.5 fga.. 118 ORtg.. 56.8 ts[/COLOR]
LEBRON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.5 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.6 ast.. 4.5 tov.. 2.2 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 26.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 56.5 ts
DURANT:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.8 pts.. 1.2 oreb.. 9.1 dreb.. 4.8 ast.. 4.1 tov.. 1.4 stl.. 1.5 blk.. 25.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 58.3 ts
KOBE:[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 34.7 pts.. 1.4 oreb.. 5.5 dreb.. 6.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 27.7 fga.. 110 ORtg.. 54.1 ts
WADE:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 32.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 5.4 dreb.. 7.1 ast.. 4.8 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 24.5 fga.. 108 ORtg.. 55.4 ts


Why keep reposting these same stats?

Because I'm blown away by them - the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th guys are between 32 and 36 points (per 100)...

Based on that, you'd think the #1 guy would be at like 37, or 38.... But no... forty-****ing-three....... Way above the pack... On equal or better efficiency..





The stats show MJ did exactly what the other wings did, but just MORE OF IT.. His efficiency was the same as other wings, but he simply produced far more at that efficiency.. So imagine Lebron and Kobe DOING MORE - that's MJ.
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[MP.Trey]

Curry getting those MJ comparisons.

[ShawkFactory]

[COLOR="Navy"]Seriously - take away the 3-point line from today's game - do you think everyone is still drooling over Curry???... Curry would be an afterthought.. He'd still be a good player, but nowhere near what he is now (the best player in the game).[/COLOR]

In the 70's, half of Curry's shots would morph from the highest efficiency shot in the game (a Curry 3-pointer at 44%), to the lowest efficiency shot in the game (a long two at 44%).

That means he'd be materially worse in eras that didn't have a 3-point line - period... I'm comfortable with these facts... But they seem to be getting under your skin.

Literally proving my point

[sd3035]

.... MJ didn't need the 3-point line to average 30+

MJ had the three point line, he was just a terrible outside shooter

[3ball]

MJ had the three point line, he was just a terrible outside shooter

MJ averaged 37 ppg on all two-pointers with good efficiency

Again, MJ didn't need the 3-point line to average 30+

Also, within those 37 ppg, MJ made more 2-point jumpshots than anyone in the league.. He's one of the best 2-point jumpshooters of all time.
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[3ball]

Literally proving my point

you had no point

[3ball]

Weak D 80's....and Watered down 90's...might as well show Wilt Chamberlain dominating rec league talent.

That's a shallow understanding of the changes on offense and defense over the years..

We have a stat that measures how hard it is to score.. It's called league-wide offensive rating (ORtg) and it's been stable for 30 years.. It's ranged between 105 and 108 since 1980, excluding a brief downswing from 1998-2004.. The minor shifts within that 105-108 range are due to style of play differences between the eras that affect inputs to the ORtg calculation, such as offensive rebounding rate and FT rate.

30 years of stable ORtg proves the difficulty of scoring hasn't changed, and the changes in offensive strategy (spacing) and defensive strategy (extra rotations) are offsetting - you either have extra rotations required by spacing and defensive 3 seconds (today's game), or the rotations aren't necessary because there is no spacing or defensive 3 seconds (previous eras).