170+ hostages taken at a Radisson hotel in Bamako, Mali

[pauk]

we need our resident ISH muslims to teach us some key koranic verses that can trick these radicals incase we ever get captured

lol...

Well can just do the testimony one, its short, most famous, most important & will certainly do the job.... and its a win-win, ill explain.

It goes: "la ilaha illa-llah, *insert prophet/prophets of your choice* rasulu-lah".

Means: "There is no god but God. *insert prophet/prophets of your choice* is/are the messenger/messengers of God"....

Its an Islamic creed in Arabic language/text declaring belief in the oneness of God ("Allah" is just an Arabic word for God, even Arabic Christians call God "Allah", understand? Same one God Christians & Jews believe in, Abrahamic religions afterall with similar oracles/prophets) and then the acceptance of either Muhammad or Jesus (Issah/Yeshuah) or Abraham (Ibrahim) or Moses (Musa) etc. as God's prophet.... dont worry all those are prophets of Islam / God aswell so its very safe going with just "Jesus"... Muhammad was simply the most urgent for the establishment of Islam (but equally necessary & impartial to all Abrahamic prophets, Muhammad with his own words made that known) so thats the name who Muslims will go with there, but there is nothing wrong with any other Abrahamic prophet mentioned there instead, all are prophets of god and all are the pilars of all those 3 Abrahamic religions (with the only exception of Muhammad in Christianity/Judaism, he came later than that)...

This way you as a Christian or Jew will still not sell yourself/your religion out in any way because the ideology in context here is the exact same thing... you literally just declared that you are Christian or Jew or Muslim, in Arabic... the Psycho gets what he wants & you get what you want (your life) and your ideology intact... and the Psycho goes to hell later when he dies anyways and you in Heaven hopefully with those 69 sexy virgins :P.... awesome, win win..

...oh and good luck! I would recommend a Desert Eagle (preferably the .50 cal. one) as a backup plan, im sure any God will understand, only you will be doing God a favor here. :)

[pauk]

It seems like you don't understand how to read the Koran. Verses that come later in the book override the early verses.

Mohammad started out preaching against violence, but by the end of the book he is advocating wholesale murderous jihad and terror campaigns in the name of Islam.

No, it seems like you dont... i mean you are reading it with the exact indoctrination / comprehension / logic / ration as an ISIS member, think about it, whats the difference...... Nick... oh Nick... if Islam was truly what YOU delusionally think it is/wants it to be (which is exactly what ISIS caliphate is/wants it to be, you are only doing them a favor, why not join huh?) the world would be in the post-apocalyptic stage at this moment.... and me and you wouldnt be talking about Jordan, Kobe or LeBrick anymore, they all would be killed by Hakeem or Kareem or something lol...

PS: Jihad, its funny how a beautiful concept can instead turn to be interpreted completely the opposite way (by the usual western suspects)... it has nothing to do with murder/killing etc. it means exactly the opposite of that, it means effort, the concept is the struggle for self-improvement, upholding & defending justice, inner struggle to be as good of a human being as possible.... shows again how much you know / read / comprehend in the Koran, similar to ISIS... i mean self improvement, justice, being a great human being for them is to release their Psychotic needs on everybody.... If you are a sane human, who thinks logically, rationally & has some sort intellect you will then never misinterpret the Koran.

Again, a religion cant heal a screw loose in a humans brain... one goes into a school and kills everybody out of hatred/for being bullied and then puts the gun to his temple and fires of after mumbling "oh my god / oh god"... and the other does the same but goes "allah akbar" (which essentially is the exact same thing) before doing it.... one is called a nutcase, simply crazy or in some cases just a poor soul who had enough, some might even feel compassion.... and the other is not that at all, just a religious extremist/terrorist and the religion needs to be now abominated by everybody.... when the difference between both is nothing, both nutcases and as a victim you die at both hands by two humans who had a screw loose... Nothing & nobody needs to be blamed except them.

[Nick Young]

No, it seems like you dont... i mean you are reading it with the exact indoctrination / comprehension / logic / ration as an ISIS member, think about it, whats the difference...... Nick... oh Nick... if Islam was truly what YOU delusionally think it is/wants it to be (which is exactly what ISIS caliphate is/wants it to be, you are only doing them a favor, why not join huh?) the world would be in the post-apocalyptic stage at this moment.... and me and you wouldnt be talking about Jordan, Kobe or LeBrick anymore, they all would be killed by Hakeem or Kareem or something lol...

PS: Jihad, its funny how a beautiful concept can instead turn to be interpreted completely the opposite way (by the usual western suspects)... it has nothing to do with murder/killing etc. it means exactly the opposite of that, it means effort, the concept is the struggle for self-improvement, upholding & defending justice, inner struggle to be as good of a human being as possible.... shows again how much you know / read / comprehend in the Koran, similar to ISIS... i mean self improvement, justice, being a great human being for them is to release their Psychotic needs on everybody.... If you are a sane human, who thinks logically, rationally & has some sort intellect you will then never misinterpret the Koran.

Again, a religion cant heal a screw loose in a humans brain... one goes into a school and kills everybody out of hatred/for being bullied and then puts the gun to his temple and fires of after mumbling "oh my god / oh god"... and the other does the same but goes "allah akbar" (which essentially is the exact same thing) before doing it.... one is called a nutcase, simply crazy or in some cases just a poor soul who had enough, some might even feel compassion.... and the other is not that at all, just a religious extremist/terrorist and the religion needs to be now abominated by everybody.... when the difference between both is nothing, both nutcases and as a victim you die at both hands by two humans who had a screw loose... Nothing & nobody needs to be blamed except them.

You just wrote a lot of words and brought up some strawmen, but wound up actually saying very very little.


Do you understand why people interpret the "beautiful concept" of jihad the way they do? The prophet of Islam himself, Mohammad, went on a violent jihad across the Arab peninsula while he was alive, conquering wherever he went and forcing people to convert to Islam or die. This is all written in the Koran, as well as several hadiths.


people who interpret jihad to mean violence are simply following in the 'glorious prophet's' example he set for them.



Please answer this question, and if possible, leave out the bullshit.


[COLOR="Red"]Did Mohammad lead a military campaign in the name of gathering more converts to Islam?[/COLOR]

[L8kersfan222]

Pauk trying to convert people, disgusting.