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If cops pull up i am
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by knicksman
Hes the only L player in there
You're so dumb dude.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by Foster5k
1.Shaq
2.Kareem
3.MJ
4.?????
5.?????
On the post, MJ was double-teamed with equal frequency to Shaq - the Shaq video shows him being doubled 33 of 62 times he caught the ball on the post (53%) compared to 52 of 103 in the MJ video (50%).
SHAQ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxZs7dwCO8
MJ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg
[COLOR="Navy"]However, MJ got doubled all over the court, not just on the post[/COLOR] - MJ's danger from anywhere on the court resulted in teams often doubling him 10+ possessions in a row, as a standard.. This type of every-possession double teams for 10 consecutive possessions never happened for Shaq, not even in the 2000 Finals.
Considering MJ was doubled more and scored far more, he's the easily the most unguardable player ever, outside of Wilt.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by knicksman
Hes the only L player in there
LeBron won more Finals games this year missing his 2nd & 3rd option than the Knicks have won in the last 20 years
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
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Comparing MJ's Peak to Shaq's Peak (91-93' vs. 00'-02')
Rebounds and assists cancel each other out.. So do blocks and steals.. Here are the relevant stats:
REGULAR SEASON
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 31.4 ppg.. 58.2% ts.. 122 ORtg.. 0.288 WS/48.. 3 All-Defense [COLOR="Green"]1st[/COLOR] Team.. 2 MVP
Shaq: 28.6 ppg.. 58.0% ts.. 115 ORtg.. 0.264 WS/48.. 2 All-Defense [COLOR="Red"]2nd[/COLOR] Team.. 1 MVP
PLAYOFFS
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 33.7 ppg.. 57.2% ts.. 120 ORtg.. 0.267 WS/48
Shaq: 29.9 ppg.. 56.2% ts.. 113 ORtg.. 0.238 WS/48
FINALS
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 52.6% fg.. 84.3% ft.. played #5, #3, #9 defenses.. beat Magic-Drexler-Barkley
Shaq: 35.9 ppg.. 59.5% fg.. 50.6% ft. played #13, #5, #1 defenses.. beat Miller-Iverson-Kidd
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Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by 3ball
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Comparing MJ's Peak to Shaq's Peak (91-93' vs. 00'-02')
Rebounds and assists cancel each other out.. So do blocks and steals.. Here are the relevant stats:
REGULAR SEASON
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 31.4 ppg.. 58.2% ts.. 122 ORtg.. 0.288 WS/48.. 3 All-Defense [COLOR="Green"]1st[/COLOR] Team.. 2 MVP
Shaq: 28.6 ppg.. 58.0% ts.. 115 ORtg.. 0.264 WS/48.. 2 All-Defense [COLOR="Red"]2nd[/COLOR] Team.. 1 MVP
PLAYOFFS
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 33.7 ppg.. 57.2% ts.. 120 ORtg.. 0.267 WS/48
Shaq: 29.9 ppg.. 56.2% ts.. 113 ORtg.. 0.238 WS/48
FINALS
MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 52.6% fg.. 84.3% ft.. played #5, #3, #9 defenses.. beat Magic-Drexler-Barkley
Shaq: 35.9 ppg.. 59.5% fg.. 50.6% ft. played #13, #5, #1 defenses.. beat Miller-Iverson-Kidd
So, what's your top 5?
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Bitch Hands
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Kevin McHale is up there.
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well well well
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Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
lebron
Dude has been LOCKED by basically everyone in the finals, in his prime. Unguardable..
Lmao. Don't know who's placing LeBron in the top 5. There's a reason the Chosen One is 2/6 in the Finals. There's also a reason two role players, Kawhi and Iggy, got Finals MVP for specifically guarding LeBron.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by dubeta
bron
JJ Barea disagrees.
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NBA Legend
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)
1. Shaq
*GAP*
2. Jordan
3. Lebron
4. Bird
4. Magic
4. Durant
5. Kareem
5. Hakeem
6. Robinson
7. Kobe
7. T-Mac
7. Gervin
7. Wade
8. Malone
8. Barkley
8. Dirk
9. Duncan
9. Garnett
9. McHale
10. Dominique
Last edited by pauk; 11-06-2015 at 01:36 AM.
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Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by pauk
From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)
1. Shaq
2. Jordan
3. Lebron
4. Bird
5. Magic
6. Durant
7. Kareem
8. Hakeem
9. Robinson
10. Kobe, T-Mac, Gervin, Wade, Malone, Barkley, Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, Carmelo, Dominique
Somewhere, a group of role players just let out the biggest LOL in the history of LOLs.
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NBA Legend
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by Foster5k
Somewhere, a group of role players just let out the biggest LOL in the history of LOLs.
Like if i really need to explain why i think he is #3? Stop trolling.... hell, prime Lebron (~2009 somewhere) is arguably the most unguardable player ive ever seen, but Shaq (Lakers ~2000) says nope.
Last edited by pauk; 11-06-2015 at 01:40 AM.
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well well well
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NBA Legend
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
Originally Posted by pauk
From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)
1. Shaq
*GAP*
2. Jordan
3. Lebron
4. Bird
4. Magic
4. Durant
5. Kareem
5. Hakeem
6. Robinson
7. Kobe
7. T-Mac
7. Gervin
7. Wade
8. Malone
8. Barkley
8. Dirk
9. Duncan
9. Garnett
9. McHale
10. Dominique
???
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History
1-Shaq
2-Kareem
3-Wilt
4-Jordan
5-Barkley
In No Order.
*McHale is close
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