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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by knicksman
    Hes the only L player in there
    You're so dumb dude.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by Foster5k

    1.Shaq
    2.Kareem
    3.MJ
    4.?????
    5.?????
    On the post, MJ was double-teamed with equal frequency to Shaq - the Shaq video shows him being doubled 33 of 62 times he caught the ball on the post (53%) compared to 52 of 103 in the MJ video (50%).

    SHAQ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxZs7dwCO8
    MJ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg


    [COLOR="Navy"]However, MJ got doubled all over the court, not just on the post[/COLOR] - MJ's danger from anywhere on the court resulted in teams often doubling him 10+ possessions in a row, as a standard.. This type of every-possession double teams for 10 consecutive possessions never happened for Shaq, not even in the 2000 Finals.

    Considering MJ was doubled more and scored far more, he's the easily the most unguardable player ever, outside of Wilt.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by knicksman
    Hes the only L player in there
    LeBron won more Finals games this year missing his 2nd & 3rd option than the Knicks have won in the last 20 years

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

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    Comparing MJ's Peak to Shaq's Peak (91-93' vs. 00'-02')


    Rebounds and assists cancel each other out.. So do blocks and steals.. Here are the relevant stats:


    REGULAR SEASON

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 31.4 ppg.. 58.2% ts.. 122 ORtg.. 0.288 WS/48.. 3 All-Defense [COLOR="Green"]1st[/COLOR] Team.. 2 MVP
    Shaq: 28.6 ppg.. 58.0% ts.. 115 ORtg.. 0.264 WS/48.. 2 All-Defense [COLOR="Red"]2nd[/COLOR] Team.. 1 MVP


    PLAYOFFS

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 33.7 ppg.. 57.2% ts.. 120 ORtg.. 0.267 WS/48
    Shaq: 29.9 ppg.. 56.2% ts.. 113 ORtg.. 0.238 WS/48


    FINALS

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 52.6% fg.. 84.3% ft.. played #5, #3, #9 defenses.. beat Magic-Drexler-Barkley
    Shaq: 35.9 ppg.. 59.5% fg.. 50.6% ft. played #13, #5, #1 defenses.. beat Miller-Iverson-Kidd

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Comparing MJ's Peak to Shaq's Peak (91-93' vs. 00'-02')


    Rebounds and assists cancel each other out.. So do blocks and steals.. Here are the relevant stats:


    REGULAR SEASON

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 31.4 ppg.. 58.2% ts.. 122 ORtg.. 0.288 WS/48.. 3 All-Defense [COLOR="Green"]1st[/COLOR] Team.. 2 MVP
    Shaq: 28.6 ppg.. 58.0% ts.. 115 ORtg.. 0.264 WS/48.. 2 All-Defense [COLOR="Red"]2nd[/COLOR] Team.. 1 MVP


    PLAYOFFS

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 33.7 ppg.. 57.2% ts.. 120 ORtg.. 0.267 WS/48
    Shaq: 29.9 ppg.. 56.2% ts.. 113 ORtg.. 0.238 WS/48


    FINALS

    MJ:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 52.6% fg.. 84.3% ft.. played #5, #3, #9 defenses.. beat Magic-Drexler-Barkley
    Shaq: 35.9 ppg.. 59.5% fg.. 50.6% ft. played #13, #5, #1 defenses.. beat Miller-Iverson-Kidd
    So, what's your top 5?

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Kevin McHale is up there.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    lebron

    Dude has been LOCKED by basically everyone in the finals, in his prime. Unguardable..

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
    lebron

    Dude has been LOCKED by basically everyone in the finals, in his prime. Unguardable..
    Lmao. Don't know who's placing LeBron in the top 5. There's a reason the Chosen One is 2/6 in the Finals. There's also a reason two role players, Kawhi and Iggy, got Finals MVP for specifically guarding LeBron.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    bron
    JJ Barea disagrees.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)

    1. Shaq

    *GAP*

    2. Jordan
    3. Lebron
    4. Bird
    4. Magic
    4. Durant
    5. Kareem
    5. Hakeem
    6. Robinson
    7. Kobe
    7. T-Mac
    7. Gervin
    7. Wade
    8. Malone
    8. Barkley
    8. Dirk
    9. Duncan
    9. Garnett
    9. McHale
    10. Dominique
    Last edited by pauk; 11-06-2015 at 01:36 AM.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)

    1. Shaq
    2. Jordan
    3. Lebron
    4. Bird
    5. Magic
    6. Durant
    7. Kareem
    8. Hakeem
    9. Robinson
    10. Kobe, T-Mac, Gervin, Wade, Malone, Barkley, Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, Carmelo, Dominique


    Somewhere, a group of role players just let out the biggest LOL in the history of LOLs.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by Foster5k


    Somewhere, a group of role players just let out the biggest LOL in the history of LOLs.

    Like if i really need to explain why i think he is #3? Stop trolling.... hell, prime Lebron (~2009 somewhere) is arguably the most unguardable player ive ever seen, but Shaq (Lakers ~2000) says nope.
    Last edited by pauk; 11-06-2015 at 01:40 AM.

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by Foster5k


    Somewhere, a group of role players just let out the biggest LOL in the history of LOLs.
    DAMN

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    From what ive seen: (all in their peak primes)

    1. Shaq

    *GAP*

    2. Jordan
    3. Lebron
    4. Bird
    4. Magic
    4. Durant
    5. Kareem
    5. Hakeem
    6. Robinson
    7. Kobe
    7. T-Mac
    7. Gervin
    7. Wade
    8. Malone
    8. Barkley
    8. Dirk
    9. Duncan
    9. Garnett
    9. McHale
    10. Dominique
    ???

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    Default Re: Top 5 Most Unguardable Players in NBA History

    1-Shaq
    2-Kareem
    3-Wilt
    4-Jordan
    5-Barkley

    In No Order.

    *McHale is close

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