2009 Lebron playoffs

[3ball]

[COLOR="blue"]JORDAN IN 88'-93' PLAYOFFS: 34.6 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 2.5 spg.. 50.5% fg.. [/COLOR]
[COLOR="red"]LEBRON IN 2009 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 35.3 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 7.8 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 51.0% fg[/COLOR]


That's 6 seasons for Jordan that match Lebron's best... And Jordan 3-peated with those stats, while Lebron lost as heavy favorite to Dwight Howard's Magic.

The fact that Lebron's very best season was MJ's standard shows why MJ's career stats (including a bunch of older, past-prime years) are better than Lebron's thru-30 stats.. And peak vs. peak, it's not remotely close - MJ scored 25% more in playoffs, with more offensive rebounds, more assists, on better efficiency:


Jordan 89'-93': 34.4 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 2.3 stl.. 25.3 fga.. 50.2 fg.. 120 ORtg
Lebron 09'-13': 28.3 ppg.. 8.9 rpg.. 6.4 apg.. 1.8 stl.. 19.9 fga.. 48.2 fg.. 118 ORtg
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[Smoke117]

JORDAN IN 88'-93' PLAYOFFS: 34.6 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 2.5 spg.. 50.5% fg..
LEBRON IN 2009 PLAYOFFS:... 35.3 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 7.8 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 51.0% fg


That's 6 seasons for Jordan that match Lebron's best... And Jordan 3-peated with those stats, while Lebron lost as heavy favorite to Dwight Howard's Magic..

The fact that Lebron's very best season was MJ's standard shows why MJ's career stats (including a bunch of older, past-prime years) are better than Lebron's thru-30 stats.. And peak vs. peak, it's not remotely close - MJ scored 25% more in playoffs, with more offensive rebounds, more assists, on better efficiency:


Jordan 89'-93': 34.4 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 2.3 stl.. 25.3 fga.. 50.2 fg.. 120 ORtg
Lebron 09'-13': 28.3 ppg.. 8.9 rpg.. 6.4 apg.. 1.8 stl.. 19.9 fga.. 48.2 fg.. 118 ORtg

...so many issues.

[HighFlyer23]

that is funny

Lol welcome to the thread

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well cant win a title with your head coach being Mike Brown.

[Gileraracer]

Our King was good, but he again choked in the most important moments

[sportjames23]

You sir, are retarted







On topic, yes it was the GOAT playoffs in NBA history, highest PER ever (37.4)

thesmallmamba starting to grow on me.

[kennethgriffin]

its a shame lebron had to stat pad, freezing out his teammates and make us miss out on a kobe/lebron finals



it really didnt feel right with the magic in there. seemed almost as if it was some parallel universe outcome

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He was outplayed by Fright and lost as heavy favorites. His defense in that series was abysmal, Hardon like

[Spaulding]

You sir, are retarted

Can't tell if this error was on purpose...

*shifty eyes*

[3ball]

Jordan 89'-93': 34.4 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 2.3 stl.. 25.3 fga.. 50.2 fg.. 120 ORtg
Lebron 09'-13': 28.3 ppg.. 8.9 rpg.. 6.4 apg.. 1.8 stl.. 19.9 fga.. 48.2 fg.. 118 ORtg

Lebron isn't used to shooting at high volume like MJ did as a standard.. He's used to 3-and-D, and you can't get 30 shot attempts on all 3-and-D.. Unfortunately, Lebron's efficiency is poor at the additional midrange and 1-on-1 required of high volume shooting - this is statistical fact.

Since he can't shoot well at high volume, he doesn't require/command a double team to PREVENT high volume... At 39% efficiency, it benefited the Warriors every time he shot... Accordingly, the Warriors tried to induce Lebron's poor efficiency at high volume by not double-teaming and letting him go 1-on-1 all alone.. The fact that Lebron uncomplicates the opponent's defense by not commanding a double team is a horrible indictment on his game.. The Warriors were literally like "let him shoot".

Otoh, with Jordan, you MUST double him - he was elite at the midrange and isolations required of high volume shooting and therefore could shoot well at high volume... It's a stark contrast - Lebron's high volume has low efficiency that can only control pace but never win, while MJ's high volume has high efficiency that thoroughly devastates teams.

Furthermore, only MJ and Hakeem have won championships while shooting efficient high volume - they're the only two with playoff runs of 25+ FGA and 45% to win a championship - MJ did it 4 times, and Hakeem once.. Everyone else, zero.. Winning rings with efficient high volume is the holy grail of basketball skill, since it requires achieving massive numbers within a winning, team framework - that requires far more skill than the jokey, playground, clearout style that Lebron uses.
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[Rocketswin2013]

its a shame lebron had to stat pad, freezing out his teammates and make us miss out on a kobe/lebron finals



it really didnt feel right with the magic in there. seemed almost as if it was some parallel universe outcome

Orlando was a good team. Cleveland was amazing offensively against them but Orlando killed the late in games. Mostly contested shots.

They did this without Nelson too.

Nothing in that series made sense. A fcking ridiculous shootout between the teams in which one was missing it's second best offensive player and had the league's best defense by far...

I think anyone would have predicted a real grind-out series with the winner scoring <90 each outcome.

Probably one of the weirdest series in NBA history.

[3ball]

Orlando was a good team. Cleveland was amazing offensively against them but Orlando killed the late in games. Mostly contested shots.

They did this without Nelson too.

Nothing in that series made sense. A fcking ridiculous shootout between the teams in which one was missing it's second best offensive player and had the league's best defense by far...

I think anyone would have predicted a real grind-out series with the winner scoring <90 each outcome.

Probably one of the weirdest series in NBA history.

In every single series Lebron loses, his teammates play horribly.. His teams never lose with his teammates playing great and the other team just having more.

Lebron's teams always lose with his teammates playing really bad, so that means Lebron simply doesn't elevate his teammates.. This is actually proven by the stats - it's statistical fact that Lebron significantly lowers the PPG and APG of his teammates and his presence doesn't improve the assist frequency of the team.

It's statistical fact that Lebron achieves his stats at the expense of teammates.
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