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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    Either the Warriors keep the tempo up, and they win.....

    OR.

    Shaq and Kobe are able to slow the game down, and they win.


    These two teams could not have been more different. The Lakers obviously have 2 of the 3 best players on the court, but the Warriors have the shooting and tactical flexibility to make it a close series.

    Lakers in 7



    The Warriors put up a top-10 all time Margin of Victory and SRS. They did that while resting their players, and playing in an extremely tough conference. The only teams in history with higher SRS than last season's Warriors had MJ, Wilt, or Kareem. Let's not just write them off like that. 8 of the top-10 teams in SRS won a championship that season, and one of the teams that lost (71-72 Bucks) had to play another top-10 SRS team (Lakers) in the conference finals that season.

    These Warriors are the only team to ever lead the league in both pace AND defensive efficiency. While other All-time-great squads ran their guys in the mid-high 30's in minutes played, Curry led the Warriors with 32.7 MPG
    Uhm the Lakers swept the 01' Kings.
    Sacramento was #1 on offense that year; #2 in SRS and #2 in pace.

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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    The Lakers then proceeded to destroy the Spurs.
    Who had the highest SRS that year at 7.92.

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    the warriors can only win if they stop all the other players,let oneal score 45 points,don't double him,he can score 50 points but he will not have the stamina all the time and foul him

    and on offence all the time play pick and roll with the player oneal defend,so if he stay back curry will start shooting 3s

    gsw had 3-4 players centers who can foul out and don't care
    play like nop (davis) and clev (lebron)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleas
    the warriors can only win if they stop all the other players,let oneal score 45 points,don't double him,he can score 50 points but he will not have the stamina all the time and foul him

    and on offence all the time play pick and roll with the player oneal defend,so if he stay back curry will start shooting 3s

    gsw had 3-4 players centers who can foul out and don't care
    play like nop (davis) and clev (lebron)

    So your in the penalty while guarding Kobe one on one. Let's see how that works

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
    So your in the penalty while guarding Kobe one on one. Let's see how that works
    you can't stop them,you must let someone,i prefet to let kobe than oneal,and hope klay and iggy to hold him ,it is easier to stop kobe than oneal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleas
    you can't stop them,you must let someone,i prefet to let kobe than oneal,and hope klay and iggy to hold him ,it is easier to stop kobe than oneal
    In 2001, Kobe was arguably more dangerous than even Shaq though (before the finals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleas
    you can't stop them,you must let someone,i prefet to let kobe than oneal,and hope klay and iggy to hold him ,it is easier to stop kobe than oneal
    It's also easy to stop every player in history than prime Shaq.

    Guess what...it's a horrible mismatch with Klay on Kobe and the more you play Iggy at small forward the more you lose shooting.

    So you pretty much have Shaq getting buckets, Kobe getting buckets and then everyone else getting buckets. You plan is to let Shaq and Kobe get there points and hold the best down...doesn't work like that. Maybe with one player but not too...fisher will still get his good looks and the same with

    All this strategy boils down to is we think we can make enough 3s to outscore them. Because you can't leave these guys on an island...this isn't Lebron, Kobe lives there and with the other team in foul trouble it's not gonna be a good look.
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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    Switch Frobe on Curry

    and it's goin to be nasty

    Lakers in 5

    01 or 15 rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
    It's also easy to stop every player in history than prime Shaq.

    Guess what...it's a horrible mismatch with Klay on Kobe and the more you play Iggy at small forward the more you lose shooting.

    So you pretty much have Shaq getting buckets, Kobe getting buckets and then everyone else getting buckets. You plan is to let Shaq and Kobe get there points and hold the best down...doesn't work like that. Maybe with one player but not too...fisher will still get his good looks and the same with

    All this strategy boils down to is we think we can make enough 3s to outscore them. Because you can't leave these guys on an island...this isn't Lebron, Kobe lives there and with the other team in foul trouble it's not gonna be a good look.
    2001 Lakers also had guys like Grant, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, Horry, Rider & Harper. All are experience professionals who would knock down the open jumpers all game long. Kobe & Shaq played at an extremely high level during that playoff run which resulted in everyone else's job much easier as a result.

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    Today's officiating and style ... 2015 Warriors have a shot. When physicality was allowed? Near peak Shaq with Kobe entering his prime. No question the 2001 Lakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    Today's officiating and style ... 2015 Warriors. When physicality was allowed? Near peak Shaq with Kobe entering his prime. No question the 2001 Lakers.


    Past his prime ancient Shaq was putting up 18/8 on 62% in '09.

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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    As I stated earlier the Warriors have an advantage in every position except Center. They also have far better depth

    Shaq would literally have to make up for all those deficiencies by himself.


    If LeBron couldnt do it theres no way Shaq could

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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by West-Side
    2001 Lakers also had guys like Grant, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, Horry, Rider & Harper. All are experience professionals who would knock down the open jumpers all game long. Kobe & Shaq played at an extremely high level during that playoff run which resulted in everyone else's job much easier as a result.
    and gsw was the best defence
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...vs-lakers.html
    kobe only take 9 3point attempts

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    Lakers in 6... I'd say 7 at the VERY MOST.

    LA had prime Shaq inside and prime Kobe on the perimeter... That easily "exceeds" GS's two best players.
    Plus, Lakers also had plenty of good role players around those two, players who knew what their job was and were good at it... Talking about shooting, clutch play, rebounding, defense...

    Lakers around those years usually turned it up another notch for the Playoffs, and that season they just steamrolled their way to the title...
    Only lost once in 16 games, were 1st in PPG, 3rd in opp/PPG, 1st in FG%, 3rd in 3P%, 2nd in opp/FG%, 1st in ORtg, 1st in DRtg, 1st in ORB%...

    If Golden State tried to go small-ball, Shaq would be like

    For the 2015 Finals, Bogut and Ezeli only played 18 and 10 minutes per game, respectively... That could've never went down against O'Neal or even remotely close, Shaq would just straight up body Green, Speights or Lee...
    And if they get them in foul-trouble? Kobe goes to work right there. Or if they end up without them bigger guys? Shaq KILLS them. And good luck with those double-teams, Diesel was a smart player who could pass the ball, while LA had Fisher, Horry, Kobe, Fox, Shaw... for them open shots.

    And Bogut, as great as he is defensively (more team D though), wouldn't be able to keep up with Shaq, tbh.

    Oh, and you got some mf'ers acting like Shaq would get instantly tired or something
    This is not old-ass, fat Shaquille we're talking about here... Get real.
    Plus, for the whole Playoffs, GS played at a 93.7 pace in 2015, while LA was at 92.0 in 2001...
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    Default Re: 2001 Lakers vs 2015 Warriors: Who wins?

    maybe gsw can play zone fore some time to help them

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