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phal5
How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Kobe:
regular season ~32/6/5 on 57%TS
playoffs ~30/6/5 on 58%TS
LeBron:
regular season ~27/8/7 on 63%TS
playoffs ~28/9/6 on 60%TS
Forget the team achievements obviously (one guy played on a horrible team akin to LeBron's Cavs in the past).
Who do you guys think was the better player, and how much separates the two in-terms of impact/individual play?
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Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by catch24
Kobe:
regular season ~32/6/5 on 57%TS
playoffs ~30/6/5 on 58%TS
LeBron:
regular season ~27/8/7 on 63%TS
playoffs ~28/9/6 on 60%TS
Forget the team achievements obviously (one guy played on a horrible team akin to LeBron's Cavs in the past).
Who do you guys think was the better player, and how much separates the two in-terms of impact/individual play?
In b4 Jt123 comes in here
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Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Lebron because of defense.
He was a runner up DPOY during that span of time
Lebron was a better offensive player because he finally brought it all together with his shooting and post play.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
Lebron because of defense.
He was a runner up DPOY during that span of time
Lebron was a better offensive player because he finally brought it all together with his shooting and post play.
Kobe is touted for his Defense during this time, there's no way Lebron was a better man to man defender than Kobe, maybe help defender.
Also, lol at him being the better offensive player.
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phal5
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
Lebron because of defense.
He was a runner up DPOY during that span of time
Lebron was a better offensive player because he finally brought it all together with his shooting and post play.
Good mention of his defense. LeBron was probably the better defender, but 2008 Kobe was a throwback year to the three peat version, circa 2000. He turned it up on that end, playing the all-around game somewhat similar to LeBron at his absolute best.
How much do you think separated the 2? Like if that version of Lebron is the BEST player today, where is Kobe at in your opinion?
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Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by catch24
Good mention of his defense. LeBron was probably the better defender, but 2008 Kobe was a throwback year to the three peat version, circa 2000. He turned it up on that end, playing the all-around game somewhat similar to LeBron at his absolute best.
How much do you think separated the 2? Like if that version of Lebron is the BEST player today, where is Kobe at in your opinion?
I think it would be like it was in 2013 with Lebron and Durant. Lebron just a little bit better
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Free the banned users.
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Kobe is top 3 all time.
Please stop comparing him to players not even in the top 10.
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phal5
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
I think it would be like it was in 2013 with Lebron and Durant. Lebron just a little bit better
I think they were closer in 2014, but fair enough.
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Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Both have similar points per shot best seasons...
Lebron put up 17.5 shots for 27 points in 2014
Kobe put up 23 shots for 32 points in 2007
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Bear Chested Da Brawn
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
Both have similar points per shot best seasons...
Lebron put up 17.5 shots for 27 points in 2014
Kobe put up 23 shots for 32 points in 2007
gotta adjust for FTs when calculating number of shots
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Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Kobe is touted for his Defense during this time, there's no way Lebron was a better man to man defender than Kobe, maybe help defender.
Also, lol at him being the better offensive player.
Kobe was Elite Defensively in 2008 but 2006-2007 he wasn't playing great Defense.
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4 ring - 4 FMVP - 4MVP
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
The same thing that separates them throughout their careers. LeBron's athleticism/size. It just gave him a little more edge on rebounding, blocks, and a little more defensive versatility being able to cover quick PG's, and big sized PFs, occasional Cs. I think LeBron was a bit better on three pointers too and he was actually really exceptional as a catch and shoot player those years, especially 13. I actually think 14 is a more impressive statistical run for LeBron than 2012... correct me if I'm wrong.
Kobe's differences being better mid range shooting, better footwork, and I think he still might have had more points per possession on post ups. If someone has that data, I'd like to see it but I think Kobe edges him out slightly there too. Lots of that is to do with the superior footwork and mid range shooting, so it all connects.
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The Fam
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
The same thing that separates them throughout their careers. LeBron's athleticism/size. It just gave him a little more edge on rebounding, blocks, and a little more defensive versatility being able to cover quick PG's, and big sized PFs, occasional Cs. I think LeBron was a bit better on three pointers too and he was actually really exceptional as a catch and shoot player those years, especially 13. I actually think 14 is a more impressive statistical run for LeBron than 2012... correct me if I'm wrong.
Kobe's differences being better mid range shooting, better footwork, and I think he still might have had more points per possession on post ups. If someone has that data, I'd like to see it but I think Kobe edges him out slightly there too. Lots of that is to do with the superior footwork and mid range shooting, so it all connects.
while '14 may be better statistically, he was far better defensively in '12, especially after Bosh went down
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4 ring - 4 FMVP - 4MVP
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
while '14 may be better statistically, he was far better defensively in '12, especially after Bosh went down
Definitely true
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How much seprarated 2006-2008 Kobe and 2012-2014 LeBron? (peak play)
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Kobe is touted for his Defense during this time, there's no way Lebron was a better man to man defender than Kobe, maybe help defender.
Also, lol at him being the better offensive player.
Kobe didn't play any defense in the 06 season...get real. Neither did Lebron in 14...but he was far seperior in 12 and 13 to Kobe in 07 and 08. Kobe has ONE elite defensive season and that was 2000 before he decided that scoring 30ppg was more important than playing great defense.
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