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College superstar
Which player would you take in the Clutch?
Last edited by Rose'sACL; 08-15-2015 at 08:33 PM.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
does this include last years playoffs..
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
does this include last years playoffs..
yes. these are current stats.
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King of LA
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
funny how people call lebron the choker and wade clutch when the stats say otherwise.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
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NBA Legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
Nah.. While the last "2 minutes" are completely arbitrary, OP has the correct stats.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Nah.. While the last "2 minutes" are completely arbitrary, OP has the correct stats.
not only is the time arbitrary but so is "to tie or take the lead" If my team is down 4 or 5 points and player x hits a 3 to bring the game to one possession that isn't clutch according to this
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... on a leash
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
not only is the time arbitrary but so is "to tie or take the lead" If my team is down 4 or 5 points and player x hits a 3 to bring the game to one possession that isn't clutch according to this
there are many filters, this is one of them, usually they all represent the same: Kobe's mediocrity, Dirk/Bron clutchness.
Also, since its last TWO minutes, the tie/take lead filter is at least more appropriate than last 5 minutes.
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NBA Legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
not only is the time arbitrary but so is "to tie or take the lead" If my team is down 4 or 5 points and player x hits a 3 to bring the game to one possession that isn't clutch according to this
I agree with you - but that's OP in a nutshell. A dishonest coward who cherry-picked these stats just so his guy could look clutch.
Checkout Bron's 4th quarter stats this past finals, specifically during the last 5 minutes of play, with no team up more than 5 (closer to your scenario). You'll get a good laugh, I assure you.
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
not only is the time arbitrary but so is "to tie or take the lead" If my team is down 4 or 5 points and player x hits a 3 to bring the game to one possession that isn't clutch according to this
Decide on a criteria to judge clutch stats by and i will post stats for it.
It was kobe fans who made criteria like this. Hell, lebron used to get scrutinized for not taking the last shot when he used to pass to a more open team mate.
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
I agree with you - but that's OP in a nutshell. A dishonest coward who cherry-picked these stats just so his guy could look clutch.
Checkout Bron's 4th quarter stats this past finals, specifically during the last 5 minutes of play, with no team up more than 5 (closer to your scenario). You'll get a good laugh, I assure you.
how am i dishonest. i even highlighted the filter used in the picture.
Are you retarded?
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NBA Legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
how am i dishonest. i even highlighted the filter used in the picture.
Are you retarded?
You're a little bitch, because you know full well the last 2 minutes couldn't be more arbitrary. Shots to tie or take the lead are USUALLY meant for last possession shots...game winners.
Keep stanning though, clown.
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... on a leash
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
You're a little bitch, because you know full well the last 2 minutes couldn't be more arbitrary. Shots to tie or take the lead is usually meant for last possession shots...game winners.
Keep stanning though, clown.
good point.. everything outside of 24 seconds is still multiple possible possession, so anything last minute, two minutes, five, should likely be within a margin of 5-6 pts.
But remember when I busted those stats?
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
You're a little bitch, because you know full well the last 2 minutes couldn't be more arbitrary. Shots to tie or take the lead are USUALLY meant for last possession shots...game winners.
Keep stanning though, clown.
tell me your criteria you little bitch. instead of talking about whether or not you like the filters used, you straight up told me that the stats are not correct.
You are on the internet, you should have checked the stats instead of crying like a little bitch.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
there are many filters, this is one of them, usually they all represent the same: Kobe's mediocrity, Dirk/Bron clutchness.
Also, since its last TWO minutes, the tie/take lead filter is at least more appropriate than last 5 minutes.
thats funny because the stats I linked show Kobe to be extremely clutch including 47% during the 08 run, 50% in 09 run & 50% in the 2010 run during clutch situations
not only that but Kobe led the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring in both 01 & 02 while averaging 8 ppg in 01 on 49/39/82 and 02 with 8ppg on 49/50/80
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