Top-10 Lists Are Dumb

[ralph_i_el]

Here's how we should rank all time great players:

Firstly, split NBA history into two eras, players who made their mark PRE-1990, and players who made their mark POST-1990 (I'm not attached to 1990, 1985 may be a better cut off). This doesn't mean that MJ's 1980's seasons don't count in ranking him, but I would compare him to post-1990 players

THEN, split the players you're ranking into guards, wings, and bigs

Then, do a mount rushmore (4 guys) for each

so for post-1990 I have:

Guards: MJ, Kobe, Wade, Nash
Wings: MJ, Bron, Kobe, Durant
Bigs: Shaq, Timmy D, Dirk, KG

The only flaw is that swingmen can be guards or wings but it's still way better than all-time top-10 lists. MJ tops both guards and wings for me because judging him as a guard or as a wing he's still tops.

[RRR3]

No Chalmers?

[kennethgriffin]

why do you have bron ahead of kobe in the wing list

[ralph_i_el]

why do you have bron ahead of kobe in the wing list

Because I'm not retarded.

[RRR3]

Oh well, there goes this thread. Sorry for trolling about Chalmers OP.

[Dr.J4ever]

Here's how we should rank all time great players:

Firstly, split NBA history into two eras, players who made their mark PRE-1990, and players who made their mark POST-1990 (I'm not attached to 1990, 1985 may be a better cut off). This doesn't mean that MJ's 1980's seasons don't count in ranking him, but I would compare him to post-1990 players

THEN, split the players you're ranking into guards, wings, and bigs

Then, do a mount rushmore (4 guys) for each

so for post-1990 I have:

Guards: MJ, Kobe, Wade, Nash
Wings: MJ, Bron, Kobe, Durant
Bigs: Shaq, Timmy D, Dirk, KG

The only flaw is that swingmen can be guards or wings but it's still way better than all-time top-10 lists. MJ tops both guards and wings for me because judging him as a guard or as a wing he's still tops.

What's so special about 1990 or 1985 as a cut off?

[ralph_i_el]

What's so special about 1990 or 1985 as a cut off?

nothing is special about the date. I just needed a cut off so guys like me that didn't actually watch the 70's and 80's don't feel compelled to talk about those players.

[ralph_i_el]

Oh well, there goes this thread. Sorry for trolling about Chalmers OP.

nah you're cool man. I thought it was funny.

Kenneth is seriously going to get me to stop posting though. I can't handle such aggressive ignorance.

[RRR3]

nah you're cool man. I thought it was funny.

Kenneth is seriously going to get me to stop posting though. I can't handle such aggressive ignorance.

Yeah, even if you ether him, he comes back. Like a cockroach.

[Lebron23]

Because I'm not retarded.

[RidonKs]

good thread

i'll going to limit myself to players i have seen, who were didn't retire before 1984. my cut off will be 1999. also forwards instead of wings since guards and wings overlap and i'd rather do centers than point guards.


1984-99
GUARDS: Jordan, Magic, Drexler, Stockton
FORWARDS: Pipper, Barkley, Bird, Hill
CENTERS: Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Walton

2000-15
GUARDS: Kobe, Nash, Paul, Wade
FORWARDS: James, Garnett, Leonard, Nowitzki
CENTERS: Ilgauskas, Nesterovic, MacCaulaugh, Sabonis

[Dr.J4ever]

nothing is special about the date. I just needed a cut off so guys like me that didn't actually watch the 70's and 80's don't feel compelled to talk about those players.

Okay, good thing then.

Everyone's top 10 list should really have asterisks anyway on players you've seen live or those you've only seen through YT or read about. It's really tough to gauge how good players from different eras were based on what other fans say or even expert opinion. There's nothing quite like watching a player live in the moment react to pressure, tactics, opposing players that were talked about previous to the game. It's a totally different feel, and you get a real sense of how good a player really is.

[MP.Trey]

Mount Rushmores and era-specific tiers are dumb.

[RidonKs]

Mount Rushmores and era-specific tiers are dumb.

yeah there's only one mount rushmore

jordan
gretzky
ruth
ali

case ****ing closed gay thread

[Yoda]

Here's how we should rank all time great players:

Firstly, split NBA history into two eras, players who made their mark PRE-1990, and players who made their mark POST-1990 (I'm not attached to 1990, 1985 may be a better cut off). This doesn't mean that MJ's 1980's seasons don't count in ranking him, but I would compare him to post-1990 players

THEN, split the players you're ranking into guards, wings, and bigs

Then, do a mount rushmore (4 guys) for each

so for post-1990 I have:

Guards: MJ, Kobe, Wade, Nash
Wings: MJ, Bron, Kobe, Durant
Bigs: Shaq, Timmy D, Dirk, KG

The only flaw is that swingmen can be guards or wings but it's still way better than all-time top-10 lists. MJ tops both guards and wings for me because judging him as a guard or as a wing he's still tops.

Bash top 10 lists do you? Dumb your idea is.