Lebron Ball effect on Chris Bosh

[branslowski]

You always fail to include Wade in these discussions. You do realize that Wade played a large role in what you are talking about as well..right?

Bosh couldn't play his "normal" game because it would have been impossible to do given Wade and Lebron...

I don't think anyone with a brain is gonna sit here and say Lebron ball isn't a real thing. It is. He can only play on the ball offensively, but that doesn't mean much here as it was the combination of Wade and Lebron that caused 99% of what you are talking about.

If it was Lebron, Bosh, and prime Ray Allen? The team would have looked much different and Bosh would have gotten more touches in his "normal" way...

Nope, Bosh's game would still be changed because he's a PF, which leaves him close to the basket, something you can't be playing LeBron ball cause Bron cant shoot. So Bosh and Ray Allen would both be shooting 3's with LeBron ball...Now if Bosh played with a Kobe? He'd get to stay in the paint because it doesn't matter if the lane was packed or not with the ball in Kobe's hand, because he can just shoot jumpers, thus Kobe getting the ball to Bosh for Bosh to create his OWN moves rather then just getting the ball to shoot and give LeBron a assist...Bosh with Kobe, 19ppg 10reb 57%fg and whole forum would love Bosh.

[DMAVS41]

Nope, Bosh's game would still be changed because he's a PF, which leaves him close to the basket, something you can't be playing LeBron ball cause Bron cant shoot. So Bosh and Ray Allen would both be shooting 3's with LeBron ball...Now if Bosh played with a Kobe? He'd get to stay in the paint because it doesn't matter if the lane was packed or not with the ball in Kobe's hand, because he can just shoot jumpers, thus Kobe getting the ball to Bosh for Bosh to create his OWN moves rather then just getting the ball to shoot and give LeBron a assist...Bosh with Kobe, 19ppg 10reb 57%fg and whole forum would love Bosh.

nah...he'd get more touches in the post. he'd get less than he would playing with a different type of player other than LEbron, but replacing Wade with Ray Allen...the spacing changes so much.

If you can't see the difference....you are just too blind.

And yes...Kobe would allow Bosh to play more of his normal game....but that doesn't mean Lebron/Bosh is worse than Kobe/Bosh...there are many other aspects to that discussion.

[JohnMax]

Lebron Ball has the same effect on Kevin Love. That eliminates the Wade argument.

[LAZERUSS]

Lebron Ball has the same effect on Kevin Love. That eliminates the Wade argument.

I don't see your point. If you take a player who was the #1 option on his former team, and make him a #3 option, do you still somehow believe that his numbers won't suffer.

I have news for you, my friend, you put either Bosh, or Love, on MJ's Bulls, and third options behind Pippen...and their numbers would take a DRAMATIC tumble. I doubt that either would score 10 ppg.

[branslowski]

Yawl just don't get it...1st or 3rd option LeBron ball changes your game...Bosh went from post player with skills to a spot up 3pt shooter...Being 3rd option just means your fga's go from 23fga to 13fga, and still a player would play HIS GAME just with less shots, but LeBron ball changes Chrish Bosh's whole game.

Kevin Love will also not be in the post anymore, his whole game will be spot up 3's and hopefully offensive putbacks, his rebounding will also drop due to LeBron taking his teammates rebounds away for stat purposes...

[TheMarkMadsen]

how many players are lucky enough to get another teams franchise player 1st option to be your 3rd option not once.. but twice

[SouBeachTalents]

how many players are lucky enough to get another teams franchise player 1st option to be your 3rd option not once.. but twice

Kobe in '04 & '13?

[DMAVS41]

Yawl just don't get it...1st or 3rd option LeBron ball changes your game...Bosh went from post player with skills to a spot up 3pt shooter...Being 3rd option just means your fga's go from 23fga to 13fga, and still a player would play HIS GAME just with less shots, but LeBron ball changes Chrish Bosh's whole game.

Kevin Love will also not be in the post anymore, his whole game will be spot up 3's and hopefully offensive putbacks, his rebounding will also drop due to LeBron taking his teammates rebounds away for stat purposes...

I agree that it changes a post players game more because of Lebron's style.

Do you at least agree that having Wade and Lebron (who play a similar style of ball dominance and don't play off the ball well due to a lack of shooting) made it worse?

Your take is that Lebron/Wade/Bosh is the same as Lebron/Ray Allen/Bosh?

Every player has a certain style that has an optimal teammate.

Kobe and Steve Nash don't make sense together...Kobe is too ball dominant.

Ray Allen and Steve Nash make much more sense.

Doesn't mean anything other than certain styles work better than others.

I also think you really discount how many great shots Lebron got Bosh in that offense. Yea, Bosh didn't get the ball in the post a lot, but that also has to do with the fact that he's not a great post player. I mean...he's good, but not great.

If those Heat had prime Dirk or even like a current Al Jefferson or something...they'd have thrown it to him in the post more often.

[Smoke117]

Uh...how is it completely LEbrons fault when Wade is the 2nd option? I'm not happy with how much we paid Bosh, but this Lebron shit is so tiring...HE WAS THE 3RD OPTION.

[LAZERUSS]

Chris Bosh...with Lebron, four straight Finals, and two straight titles in their four years together.

The rest of his career... a complete loser that couldn't even post a winning record with Wade.

[Bankaii]

Kobe in '04 & '13?

Slayed. I swear that guy types everything out his ass.

[SouBeachTalents]

Chris Bosh...with Lebron, four straight Finals, and two straight titles in their four years together.

The rest of his career... a complete loser that couldn't even post a winning record with Wade.

He's a superstar doe