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    Default Re: Replace 1-time all-star Horace on Bulls w/ 10-time all-star Bosh

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    lol who cares about the finals mvp? winning the chip is all that matters.

    caring about the finals mvp results in shit like lebron choking away a huge lead in game 2 of the finals because he was afraid of Wade getting the Finals MVP and started ball hogging and firing up bricks and slinging turnovers
    True, and anyone with half a brain knows that Steph Curry was the best player of the series. ESPN and Bleacher Report have zero credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    lol who cares about the finals mvp? winning the chip is all that matters.

    caring about the finals mvp results in shit like lebron choking away a huge lead in game 2 of the finals because he was afraid of Wade getting the Finals MVP and started ball hogging and firing up bricks and slinging turnovers
    Curry cares.
    His face when Andre was announced FMVP

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    True, and anyone with half a brain knows that Steph Curry was the best player of the series. ESPN and Bleacher Report have zero credibility.
    Anyone with a full brain know that Steph got carried.


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    Quote Originally Posted by livinglegend
    Anyone with a full brain know that Steph got carried.


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    Quote Originally Posted by livinglegend

    Prove it.
    Bosh averaged 24/11 before Lebron.. Then he sacrificed his prime years for Lebron-ball, where his stats dipped to 16/6.

    Otoh, Grant played at full capacity alongside MJ: Grant averaged 14/10 with MJ, and 15/11 without in 1994..

    Again, MJ's off-ball style didn't reduce the stats of his teammates like Lebron's ball-dominance does.. Remember, it wasn't just Grant - Pippen and Kukoc's numbers barely changed as well..

    MJ's more optimal style allowed him to add his goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there without reducing it, which maximized the team's production and prevented underachievement..

    When you add goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there, you can turn a 2nd round exit team into a 3-peat dynasty - the Bulls went from 3-peat, to 2nd round exit, to 3-peat - that's the biggest drop-off in NBA history.. and also the biggest recovery in NBA history..

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    Default Re: Replace 1-time all-star Horace on Bulls w/ 10-time all-star Bosh

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    meltdown
    Damn, that was easy.


    NEXT victim please

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Bosh averaged 24/11 before Lebron.. Then he sacrificed his prime years for Lebron-ball, where his stats dipped to 16/6.

    Otoh, Grant played at full capacity alongside MJ: Grant averaged 14/10 with MJ, and 15/11 without in 1994..

    Again, MJ's off-ball style didn't reduce the stats of his teammates like Lebron's ball-dominance does.. Remember, it wasn't just Grant - Pippen and Kukoc's numbers barely changed as well.. MJ's more optimal style allowed him to add his goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there without reducing it, which maximized the team's production and prevented underachievement..

    When you add goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there, you can turn a 2nd round exit team into a 3-peat dynasty - the Bulls went from 3-peat, to 2nd round exit, to 3-peat - that's the biggest drop-off in NBA history.. and also the biggest recovery in NBA history..
    that's not a proof.
    these are assumptions.



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    livinglegend on a roll

    taking warriorfan and 3ball both at once

    aka livingrentfree

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    3ball posts hard stats proving his points

    "these are assumptions"


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    Default Re: Replace 1-time all-star Horace on Bulls w/ 10-time all-star Bosh

    Quote Originally Posted by livinglegend
    that's not a proof.
    these are assumptions.



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    It's a FACT that Bosh's stats went from 24/11 without Lebron... to 16/6 with Lebron.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACT that Grant's stats went from 14/10 with MJ... to 15/11 without MJ.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACT that Pippen and Kukoc's stats barely changed when MJ left - this a FACT, not an assumption.

    The FACTS are that Lebron cratered Bosh's stats (24/11 to 16/6), while Pippen, Kukoc, and Grant all played to capacity alongside MJ (as evidenced by their unchanged stats).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball

    It's a FACT that Bosh's stats went from 24/11 without Lebron... to 16/6 with Lebron.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACT that Grant's stats went from 14/10 with MJ... to 15/11 without MJ.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACT that Pippen and Kukoc's stats barely changed when MJ left - this a FACT, not an assumption.

    The FACTS are that Lebron cratered Bosh's stats (24/11 to 16/6), while Pippen, Kukoc, and Grant all played to capacity alongside MJ (as evidenced by their unchanged stats).
    Again, MJ's off-ball style didn't reduce the stats of his teammates like Lebron's ball-dominance does.

    MJ's more optimal style allowed him to add his goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there without reducing it, which maximized the team's production and prevented underachievement..

    When you add goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there, you can turn a 2nd round exit team into a 3-peat dynasty - the Bulls went from 3-peat... to 2nd round exit... to 3-peat - that's the biggest drop-off in NBA history.. and also the biggest recovery in NBA history..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    It's a FACT that Bosh's stats went from 24/11 without Lebron... to 16/6 with Lebron.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACT that Grant's stats went from 14/10 with MJ... to 15/11 without MJ.. This is a FACT, not an assumption.

    It's a FACt that Pippen and Kukoc's stats also barely changed when MJ left - this a FACT, not an assumption.

    The FACTS are that Lebron cratered Bosh's stats (24/11 to 16/6), while Pippen, Kukoc, and Grant all played to capacity alongside MJ (as evidenced by their unchanged stats).
    It doesn't prove that those stats happened because of Lebron or because of Jordan.
    Many factors are in play.
    You assumed they happened because of them.


    fact: 1-9 without pippen


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Again, MJ's off-ball style didn't reduce the stats of his teammates like Lebron's ball-dominance does.

    MJ's more optimal style allowed him to add his goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there without reducing it, which maximized the team's production and prevented underachievement..

    When you add goat stats RIGHT ON TOP of what was already there, you can turn a 2nd round exit team into a 3-peat dynasty - the Bulls went from 3-peat, to 2nd round exit, to 3-peat - that's the biggest drop-off in NBA history.. and also the biggest recovery in NBA history..

    more assumptions




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    Default Re: Replace 1-time all-star Horace on Bulls w/ 10-time all-star Bosh

    Quote Originally Posted by livinglegend
    It doesn't prove that those stats happened because of Lebron or because of Jordan.
    Many factors are in play.
    You assumed they happened because of them.


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    or are you just assuming that he's assuming that it happened because of them instead of merely just stating facts and letting everyone draw their own conclusions from them?

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