01 Iverson did more for his team than 15 Lebron.

[ralph_i_el]

You being a salty phuck is REAL. Stop talking about yourself man.

What it's like to be a knicks fan:

[ralph_i_el]

That's bullshit and you know it, imagine if Iverson was 6'8 bro. Plus Lebron wasn't doing this the whole season, Iverson did through the whole damn season and he was season MVP of the league.

He'd still be a mediocre chucker, but he'd slower and less agile.

[KevinNYC]

KEVINNYC, you know damn well that the 01 sixers would be a lottery team if Iverson was on the bench. How could you even say something like that?

Except I argue the exact opposite. The 01 Sixers did a lot of things you need to do to win ball games. The Iverson dragged this team to the Finals and had no help is nonsense. He shot under 39% from the floor in the playoffs. He took 35.55% of his teams shots and scored 34.01% of their points.

If you look at win shares, he was second on his team in the playoffs. Second.
You may not like that stat, but it should tell you something else was going on with that team other than Iverson putting them on his back. They were the 4th best rebounding team in the league that year and were 5th in offensive rebounds. That is very, very handy when your top scorer is shooting 30 times a night and hitting less than 39% of his shots.

[JohnFreeman]

The way some of you obsess with hatred over someone that doesn't know who you are is pathetic. Being an idiot doesn't help either.

[tmacattack33]

FACTS.

01 Iverson put his team on his back throughout the whole season with only one fading all star which his team acquired after all star weekend 2001.

01 Iverson led his team to number 1 seed, won all star mvp, won season mvp, and led team to the finals.

01 Iverson led his team to a one game win against the defending champs lakers in the finals as he helped his team by giving the Shaq, Kobe lakers their only loss of the postseason.





15 Bron had help throughout the season with two all stars that eventually help the cavs capture number 2 seed in the EAST. He was also 3rd place in MVP voting too.

15 Bron didn't put his team on his back until the 2015 east semis - 2015 nba finals when his two all star teammates became injured.

15 Bron is going against a team who lost 5 games already this postseason, a team that's nowhere as talented as the 01 lakers too.


There you have it folks. What do you think ISH??

Playoffs >>> Reg Season

2015 Lebron >>> 2001 Iverson

[Ai2death]

The only legit post? I didn't say any facts man?

Don't take it to heart, he just made the most convincing case, you sounded more like a troll, sorry

[Straight_Ballin]

here's a run down of AI's Playoff run

Beat the Pacers with Rose, Miller, Jermaine O'Neal in the first round, the same core of the team that went to the Finals and almost pushed the Lakers to 7 games in 2000

Beat the Raptors with prime Vince, Antonio Davis, Oakley in 7 games, 16-assist performance in Game 7 + two 50+ pt games in the series

Beat the Bucks with prime Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Glenn Robinson, Tim Thomas, 44/6/7/3 on 52% shooting in the closeout game

had a 3 game run of 46, 44 and 48 points with the last 2 games of the Bucks series and Game 1 of the Finals, averaging 46/4/5/3 on 46/52/90 shooting

AI averaged 36 ppg on 49%TS in the Finals while Bran is averaging 37 ppg on 48%TS

difference is that one guy is below 6 ft and weighs about a 100 pounds less while the other guy is a 6-8 beast who gets single coverage and is given open jump shots to prevent him from going to the rim. AI mostly shot contested jump shots and had to work hard to get to the rim and finish over guys that were a foot taller than him. And they were both virtually identical at scoring the basketball at a similar volume. Lebron won a Finals game while going 4/23 in the 2nd half, 2/12 in 4th + OT

Iverson's game 1 with 48/5/6 + 5 stls on 44% shooting (with clutch baskets in 4th + OT) is better than any Game of Lebron's in the Warriors' series. Stacking rebounds and assists is cute but there wasn't a single game where we saw Lebron put the team on his back in crunch time to carry them to a W. Cavs are already eliminated if Dellavedova doesn't grab the offensive rebound and doesn't make the FTs.

AI had 14 games of 30 or more points, 6 games of 44 or more points, Lebron so far has 11 games of 30+ points, one game with 44 points.

that's called CARRYING a team.

It's pretty sad that this current era of soft fans has to be educated to the point of being able to understand what the definition of carrying means. They actually think that Bron carried the 15 cavs more than AI did the 01 sixers.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Simple Jack]

Who the hell analyzes the game on a pound-for-pound basis? We going to start putting Early Boykins and Mugsy in Top 10 lists soon?

Iverson's team was better than Bron's current team these finals and it's really not even close.

And AI did carry the team through the regular season, but who is debating that? The issue OP brought up implies a focus on the Finals and LeBron is doing more, with less, than anyone in NBA history.

[Living Being]

Iverson didn't flash his junk on national television. Technically, LeBron did more.

Iverson is definitely the guy who would've scored at the end of game 1, though, unlike LeBail who was scared to drive against Iguodala.

[ai9]

They were the 4th best rebounding team in the league that year and were 5th in offensive rebounds. That is very, very handy when your top scorer is shooting 30 times a night and hitting less than 39% of his shots.

Not to take away from Mutombo, Tyrone Hill and all those guys, but they wouldn't have been top 5 in offensive rebounds without Iverson's shots in the first place. Iverson drew so much defensive attention that his teammates were able to grab easy put backs when he missed. His misses were almost like an assist.

[ImKobe]

yea well you aren't arguing pound for pound you are arguing who did more. his height doesn't mean shit. you just posted they had same amount of points but lebron is getting triple doubles most games.

AI faced better competition, had better scoring games and he had less help overall, so Lebron's assists and rebounds aren't good enough to make up for that...

We all know who the better player is, the question is, who did more in their respective runs.... both got their team to the Finals and both lost to a team (Cavs will lose) that they had no chance beating anyways, but both had great games in the series with AI's Game 1 being better than any game Lebron had the entire playoff run.

one went up against prime Shaq and prime Kobe, who went undefeated against great teams in the West and who both averaged 30+ efficient points a game in the Playoffs at that point, and he somehow managed to win a game on their home court while dropping 48 points 5 rebounds 6 assists and 5 steals

Like I said, AI at the end of the day did more for his team, his higher scoring games back up my claims. He had some horrible games in losses sure, but he had a ton of great games that got his team to the Finals and was the only guy who won a game against the Lakers while Blazers, Kings and Spurs couldn't.

AI had big numbers himself

32/4/7/2 against Indiana

34/4/7/3 against Toronto

31/5/7/2 against Milwaukee

36/6/4/2 against LA

Lebron's numbers are better overall, but AI achieving the same result with a worse supporting cast and going up against better teams means he gets the edge here. The title isn't "who was the better player in their respective runs", it's "who did more", AI had to do more considering his roster and the level of competition he faced. He faced a better team in every single round.

[Real14]

Don't take it to heart, he just made the most convincing case, you sounded more like a troll, sorry

He did made a good case, but you have to ignore the fact that I cant stand LeBron and look at the facts more man. Read my facts again and tell me how is that trolling. Seriously bro.