Where are your Gods now efficiency dorks

[Ne 1]

lmao @ insecure Kobrick lovers

Kobe never was the playmaker that Lebron is. Face facts. Even with all the misses, Lebron still manages to influence the game like Kobrick never did.

"Kobe's become the floor leader of a basketball team that was kind of looking for that nature of a player, who could not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker or consistently make big plays at critical times," Jackson said. "So it was very important for Kobe to step into that role that he was envisioned at. I've always held the bar up very high for Kobe, and he's not only reached that bar, but he's jumping over the top of it right now.

"And I think it's the best that I've ever seen a player of mine play with an overall court game. I'm asking him to do so much, and he's accomplishing it."

Jackson was quickly asked for a clarification. That includes Michael Jordan?

"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player that I've ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game, and I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. But Kobe has to set up the offense, to advance the ball, to read the defense, to make other players happy, and he's doing a great job of that." - Phil Jackson 2001

Muh triple-doubles!

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That's not an argument.

Once again, when Kobe is putting up the all-around production LeBron has in the postseason, and particularity the finals, your point will be valid.

[Ne 1]

That's not an argument.

How so? The triangle is a slow-paced, half court oriented offense geared toward ball movement.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

lmao @ insecure Kobrick lovers

Kobe never was the playmaker that Lebron is. Face facts. Even with all the misses, Lebron still manages to influence the game like Kobrick never did.

The Cavs have a sub 100 Offensive Rating in the Finals. Such playmaking impact tho.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

How so? The triangle is a slow-paced, half court oriented offense geared toward ball movement.

Jordan averaged ~31/12/6 in the '91 finals.

But even if you were to excuse Kobe because of the "triangle", he's also played under multiple coaches YET still hasn't accomplished this feat.

LeBron's definitely been inefficient and Iverson-like from a scoring perspective, but the all-around game nullifies that; an all-around game neither of those players can match.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Jordan averaged ~31/12/6 in the '91 finals.

But even if you were to excuse Kobe because of the "triangle", he's also played under multiple coaches YET still hasn't accomplished this feat.

LeBron's definitely been inefficient and Iverson-like from a scoring perspective, but the all-around game nullifies that; an all-around game neither of those players can match.

The goal is to win games not collect stats. Kobe's a SG. Lebron's playing as a PF most of the time. There was no need for him to take rebounds away from his teammates to chase meaningless numbers.

[Shih508]

Jordan averaged ~31/12/6 in the '91 finals.

But even if you were to excuse Kobe because of the "triangle", he's also played under multiple coaches YET still hasn't accomplished this feat.

LeBron's definitely been inefficient and Iverson-like from a scoring perspective, but the all-around game nullifies that; an all-around game neither of those players can match.

AI is more efficient than Kobe if u look the thing into context. He's shorter, played all his prime in hand-check era and never had someone else on his team to share the offensive load.

AI is the basketball god pound for pound.

On the other hand, Lebron's worst final series in terms of fg% is still 2% higher than Kobe's career avg. Kobe is one of worst final performer of all time while being carried series after series by Refs and Lakers franchise. Overrated to Extreme.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

AI is more efficient than Kobe if u look the thing into context. He's shorter, played all his prime in hand-check era and never had someone else on his team to share the offensive load.

AI is the basketball god pound for pound.

On the other hand, Lebron's worst final series in terms of fg% is still 2% higher than Kobe's career avg. Kobe is one of worst final performer of all time while being carried series after series by Refs and Lakers franchise. Overrated to Extreme.

Since Ai gets bonus points for being smaller than Kobe does Kobe get bonus points for being smaller than LeBron?



The worst Finals performance of all time was only 4 years ago did you forget already?

[Ne 1]

LeBron's definitely been inefficient and Iverson-like from a scoring perspective

And his stats would plummet considering how consistent his jumper is.

Move the ball to the post or inside to a double teamed big man who takes advantage of the mismatch or throws the ball out for it to be swung to the weakside (many times thats two passes) for an open perimeter shot. Ball movements also means less assists for the pivotal player in that play.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The goal is to win games not collect stats. Kobe's a SG. Lebron's playing as a PF most of the time. There was no need for him to take rebounds away from his teammates to chase meaningless numbers.

LeBron is winning; he's got 2 titles and is in good position to put a strangle-hold on GSW w/ these home games.

Not only that, but its not LeBron's fault that he's doing more beside scoring. Scoring, playmaking, rebounding, and defending at an elite level - something Kobe nor Iverson ever did consistently.

[AirFederer]

LOL @Kobe stans in this thread.
We all know you`d LOVE it and post non stop about it if Kobe came up with 39/16/11 on 11/35 in a W in the finals, away game.

Just stop

[Hey Yo]

Since Ai gets bonus points for being smaller than Kobe does Kobe get bonus points for being smaller than LeBron?



The worst Finals performance of all time was only 4 years ago did you forget already?

Prime Magic in 1983 was worse. They got swept with Magic avg. 6TO's PG and shooting 40%. Pretty bad FG% for a guy didn't/couldn't shoot jumpers. Majority of points were from posting up and from the FTL.

[NBASTATMAN]

Just admit it, the "efficency" argument no longer holds weight anymore, especially without context.

On the contrary, if he were more efficient they would be up 2-0..

[Yao Ming's Foot]

LeBron is winning; he's got 2 titles and is in good position to put a strangle-hold on GSW w/ these home games.

Not only that, but its not LeBron's fault that he's doing more beside scoring. Scoring, playmaking, rebounding, and defending at an elite level - something Kobe nor Iverson ever did consistently.

Oh wow 2 titles. I didn't realize..

[NBASTATMAN]

Imagine of he loses (a real possiblity).

2/6 and you have shown your true color (that you only care about efficiency when it comes to Kobe).

Devastating

If Lebron were efficient they would be up 2-0.. It matters big time... That is something he needs to work on... Shooting like AI AND KOBE ain't going to do it...