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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    horseshit.. it's tendinitis... that's not even an injury
    Have you seen him play in the last few weeks? He's looked like maybe 50% of the player he was. Wade also had tendinitis in his knee the years he missed a bunch of games, but not sure if it's the same kind.

    But yeah if Kyrie looks reminiscent to how he looked in the last two rounds, it should be a cakewalk for GSW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelterSkelter





    I can't understand your obssession on spacing.

    [COLOR="Red"]Spacing isn't just some word people say - it has actual meaning.. Specifically, it allows today's player to face fewer strongside defenders because weakside floor-spreaders take them away.
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    Otoh, the lack of spacing in previous eras usually kept all 5 defenders on the strongside (as seen in GIF above), since there were no weakside floor-spreaders to draw them away.


    Quote Originally Posted by HelterSkelter

    That's why (spacing ) players like LeBron are headaches for the defense...
    Exactly.. The spacing is why Lebron is a headache.. Without spacing, he'd face more defenders on the strongside.. He'd also have less room and time to operate because help defenders would be closer.


    Quote Originally Posted by HelterSkelter





    and when they double team, the spacing gets fcked up

    Exactly, that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one Lebron (and my grandmother) can easily make to #20 Mosgov above.. That's how easy spacing makes passing.


    Quote Originally Posted by HelterSkelter

    Mid 00s Pistons and Pacers, Late 80s Pistons, Duncan's Spurs (when they want too), and some other teams.. too lazy to think of all of them.
    Spurs wouldn't win a ring in the 80's.. Think about it - Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is nowhere near Bird/McHale/Parish/DJ.. Magic/Kareem/Worthy/Scott/Green/Cooper.. Isiah/Dumars/Laimbeer/Rodman/Dantley.. Moses Malone/Dr. J/Toney/Cheeks/Jones.. MJ/Scottie


    Quote Originally Posted by HelterSkelter

    So, yeah.. playing guys like LeBron, Kobe, Durant, etc. one on one is not wise, especially on a stage like the finals.
    Even though the spacing allows today's player easier drives and weak paint resistance (which leads to easier domination), the Warriors still can't help too early on Lebron - the spacing simply leaves players TOO OPEN and the passes are too obvious and easy to make, like the previous Mosgov example..

    The spacing enhances the effect of good ball movement - the supporting cast simply gets looks that are way too good if you move the ball, just like the entire Cavs supporting cast did in the Atlanta series.. So you don't want Lebron moving the ball - stay at home, and let him hold or dribble the ball as long as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball





    Warriors in 6 if they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

    look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

    that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.
    This appears to have been the case..

    And I guess it's not rocket science.. Letting someone take a shot they only convert 32.5% of the time is better than ANY OTHER OPTION DEFENSIVELY (indeed, Lebron shot a horrific 32.5% on isolations in 2015 playoffs).

    The only interesting question is whether an opponent benefits more from letting Lebron isolate at 32.5% a pop, or letting Deandre Jordan shoot FT's at 50%.. What's helps a team more: letting Lebron isolate or hack-a-Jordan?
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    Holy crap pauk got obliterated in this thread. They played his ass straight up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball



    they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

    look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

    that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.
    3ball right yet again, god damn.

    No wonder all the LeBron stans constantly ignore the substance of his arguments and instead always try to change the subject.

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    Good prediction and analysis.

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    OP was on the money

    Warriors basically said "Lebron you suck here's single coverage now hold this L"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikeABosh
    Yea, so mad. More like annoyed because he is cancerous to this forum. Literally all his threads are Lebron vs Jordan somehow with a few gifs thrown in about whatever drivel he is on about
    And yet what he predicted is exactly what happened. Honestly you are better off watching old Jordan vids than this Lebron crap.

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    MJ fam still winning

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