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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by game3524
    He at least has a winning record. Hell, take away the Shaq years and it is still Kobe 2/3 compare to Lebron 2/5.
    Keep making up new criteria.

    You must be displaying I hope the dumbest logic that fell off your keyboard.

    Also the last LeBron Heat team was 20-10 vs the West, this year the Cavs were 18-12... but don't let facts get in your way, please continue.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
    http://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/22/84...nference-chart



    damn...........the times the east were harder Raisin Bran choked as the favorite in all 3 series


    so asterisks on the runs (including the overrated 07 run where he got carried by a stacked defense) +2/5
    hes still top 30 alltime IMO
    Nice graph this shows quite a bit of info.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    I honestly do not know the difference between losing in the finals compared to losing in the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs.

    2/5 don't mean shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavves
    I honestly do not know the difference between losing in the finals compared to losing in the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs.

    2/5 don't mean shit.
    You must be 10 or so if you dont know that in the NBA Finals Appearances have always been talked about as an accomplishment. At least until idiotards needed to find some way to slander LeBron.

    People's lack of knowing what the **** they are talking about shines through when they hate on LeBron. Like people saying he's not clutch yet if you look at the actual stats he has been one of if not the most clutch.

    I'm kind of upset that I have to defend LeBron when I only root against him, but the drooler level is high in here.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by OnFire
    You must be 10 or so if you dont know that in the NBA Finals Appearances have always been talked about as an accomplishment. At least until idiotards needed to find some way to slander LeBron.

    People's lack of knowing what the **** they are talking about shines through when they hate on LeBron. Like people saying he's not clutch yet if you look at the actual stats he has been one of if not the most clutch.

    I'm kind of upset that I have to defend LeBron when I only root against him, but the drooler level is high in here.
    Think you took what I said out of context.

    Getting to the finals is always an accomplishment, even in the east. But it's not Lebron's fault he was drafted into the East.

    Losing in the1st, 2nd or 3rd round is just as bad as losing in the finals, and in my eyes definitely worse than losing in the finals if you are the better team during that series in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. The 2/5 talk is dumb. It's not a bright spot in Lebron's resume, but it's definitely not the deciding factor into why somebody may thing he isn't as good as the other all time greats.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Obvi.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by OnFire
    Keep making up new criteria.

    You must be displaying I hope the dumbest logic that fell off your keyboard.

    Also the last LeBron Heat team was 20-10 vs the West, this year the Cavs were 18-12... but don't let facts get in your way, please continue.
    What new criteria? The guy has played a crap conference for the majority of his career that is just a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by game3524
    What new criteria? The guy has played a crap conference for the majority of his career that is just a fact.
    And at the beginning of Kobe's career the East was better so what?

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    And the east wouldnt be so bad without your loser ass franchise who don't even try to win... damn embarrassment to the sport.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    LeBron in the superior West would be playing on a superior Western team

    Pointless analysis

    this..and since when did average margin of points opp scored become the measure of how hard it is to win in the east? lol...each game and series has a different identity

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by OnFire
    Did he not still beat the West's best team? Flawed ass logic.

    In basketball more than ANY other sport the better team wins so i dont think it matters that much.



    Imagine two cars have to drive to a race. One car has a bumpier, treacherous ride that takes longer.


    The other has a straight road, no potholes. Easier.



    Which fu*king car would you rather have at the end?



    This isn't rocket science.

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by OnFire
    And at the beginning of Kobe's career the East was better so what?

    Straw man.


    Nice deflection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh the horror
    Imagine two cars have to drive to a race. One car has a bumpier, treacherous ride that takes longer.


    The other has a straight road, no potholes. Easier.



    Which fu*king car would you rather have at the end?



    This isn't rocket science.
    Depends on what kinda car is better in the first place

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Just like Magic Johnson and the Showtime Lakers. Jesus Christ look at the record of their opponents in the 1987 NBA Playoffs.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1987.html

    Denver Nuggets - 37-45
    Seattle Supersonics - 39-43
    Golden State Warriors - 42-40

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    Default Re: Lebrons finals runs come with an asterisks - SBNation

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    Just like Magic Johnson and the Showtime Lakers. Jesus Christ look at the record of their opponents in the 1987 NBA Playoffs.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1987.html

    Denver Nuggets - 37-45
    Seattle Supersonics - 39-43
    Golden State Warriors - 42-40
    5-9 against the East.

    And do you remember anything Magic did against those WC teams?

    His legacy was definded against the best teams he faced.
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