For one finals series would you rather have a prime Kobe or Ginobili?

[Showtime2001]

Kobe and its not even close.

[Keno]

manu and for obvious reasons.

[SamuraiSWISH]

manu and for obvious reasons.

Being a LeBron fan and Manu helped hand the Heat the 2013 championship on a silver turnover platter?

[Cold soul]

manu and for obvious reasons.

Manu sure was playing for Heat during 2013 NBA Finals. What a performance that was.

[NZStreetBaller]

Kobe is a two time fmvp and was capable oc scoring 81 points in his prime. Who the heck is manu Compared to that.

[FKAri]

The only reason Manu gets a look is if this Kobe's ego is going to destroy an already championship caliber team. Interesting question as Manu is a great all-round player that would make any team better with almost any role he's given.

I still go with Kobe. I am assuming prime Kobe is a somewhat mature Kobe of the 2nd threepeat.

[dubeta]

Kobe is a two time fmvp and was capable oc scoring 81 points in his prime. Who the heck is manu Compared to that.

PM me for answers, boy.

[Akrazotile]

Manu sure was playing for Heat during 2013 NBA Finals. What a performance that was.

2013 Manu was not prime Manu.

Prime Manu was effective, clutch, laden with intangibles, and actually played good defense.

This is why it would be a huge gamble to take Kobe in a finals series. For a randomly generated playoff team, maybe they squeeked into the playoffs without a real offensive threat and they can maybe win a series if they get an iso chucker like kobe to add some offense.

A team that has made the finals doesnt need someone to try and be a hero and go 6-24 and nearly throw the series away. Or gun for finals mvp while getting lit up by richard hamilton and cost his team the series.

Ginobili is a team player and a much better defender than kobe "i never take charges" bryant. Oh, and also manu's clutch gene is dominant - kobe's is recessive.


So in summation, the answer to the thread is Manu and it's not even remotely close in any conceivable way.

[Im so nba'd out]

black one

[Hey Yo]

Manu sure was playing for Heat during 2013 NBA Finals. What a performance that was.

And Kobe sure was playing for Detroit and Boston.

[dubeta]

And Kobe sure was playing for Detroit and Boston.

Really? It was really hard to figure out he was playing at all either way.

[SouBeachTalents]

And Kobe sure was playing for Detroit and Boston.

And LeBron sure was playing for Dallas

[imdaman99]

Really? It was really hard to figure out he was playing at all either way.

Don't confuse Kobe for Lebron. Non-factor and disappearing act in 2011 and again in 2014

[Wade's Rings]

Finals? Wade.

Playoffs? Kobe.

Overall? Kobe.

If I need a 6th man, Manu.

Wade wasn't part of the question.

[Jacks3]

Nobody in history faced the quality of Finals defenses prime Kobe faced. It's not even remotely close.

2001--Sixers were #5 in DRTG, and #1 after the trade for Mutombo

2002-#1 ranked defense

2004--#1 ranked defense. -8.4 relative to league average (to put that into perspective, the #1 defense now is the Warriors at -6). -11.5 after the Rasheed Wallace trade. Easily the GOAT defense.

2008--#1 ranked defense. -8.5 relative to league. Again, this is a top 5 mark in modern NBA history. GOAT level defense.

2009--#1 ranked defense. -6.4 relative to league average. Top 25 mark in history.

2010--#2 ranked defense. 2010 Celtics had the best defense rating in history through the first three rounds of the post-season.

This is why I laugh when morons say Bryant was a poor Finals performer. His defensive comp was light years ahead of anybody else.