2015 Draft,

[Aussie Dunker]

This would be a no brainer if we didn't have Meeks...

But yeah havng 3 x pure SG's who will all demand time is not ideal.

Would be better of doing a Jennings for Gallinari deal, giving Den a PG when they split ways with Lawson...

Between Galli and Ilyasova, they are both pretty much combo F's who can play either position and both very deadly from beyond the arc. Galli is also quite a solid ball handler / distributor,

Galli seems like the new age PF, at 6'10" and 230 pounds, with being a legit knockdown 3pt threat... And just turned 26 so should have his prime 5 years ahead of him...

Ilyasova I really like, but imagine him in that Tolliver role last year, backing up both F positions and getting starter like minutes...

Dre / Christmas
Galli / Ilyasova
Hezonja / Q,Miller
KCP / Meeks
Reggie / Dinwiddie

Give that team a couple of years to Gel under SVG, a couple of those players to take the next step, and some luck - and we could be looking at a very competitive unit! A very young team overall with plenty of time to develop together...

[el gringos]

This would be a no brainer if we didn't have Meeks...

But yeah havng 3 x pure SG's who will all demand time is not ideal.

Would be better of doing a Jennings for Gallinari deal, giving Den a PG when they split ways with Lawson...

Between Galli and Ilyasova, they are both pretty much combo F's who can play either position and both very deadly from beyond the arc. Galli is also quite a solid ball handler / distributor,

Galli seems like the new age PF, at 6'10" and 230 pounds, with being a legit knockdown 3pt threat... And just turned 26 so should have his prime 5 years ahead of him...

Ilyasova I really like, but imagine him in that Tolliver role last year, backing up both F positions and getting starter like minutes...

Dre / Christmas
Galli / Ilyasova
Hezonja / Q,Miller
KCP / Meeks
Reggie / Dinwiddie

Give that team a couple of years to Gel under SVG, a couple of those players to take the next step, and some luck - and we could be looking at a very competitive unit! A very young team overall with plenty of time to develop together...

Nuggets aren't trading their best player for Jennings. Gallinari is the guy the nugs are keeping even if they do a fire sale. Gallinari and nurkic are the core- they are wanting to deal Lawson and faried


I think a Knicks trade #4 trade is possible. But it would have to be a great haul. That's why they'll talk w sac, Denver, Orlando, and Detroit. Maybe one of those teams goes big

[ZMonkey11]

Nuggets aren't trading their best player for Jennings. Gallinari is the guy the nugs are keeping even if they do a fire sale. Gallinari and nurkic are the core- they are wanting to deal Lawson and faried


I think a Knicks trade #4 trade is possible. But it would have to be a great haul. That's why they'll talk w sac, Denver, Orlando, and Detroit. Maybe one of those teams goes big

Sorry to nitpick and maybe there is some meaning behind it, but shouldn't your name be los gringos.

Otherwise.... Why would we pick up Galli? We would end up having no defense. Does no one on this Detroit board want a defensive minded team at all? It's not like Drummond is a superstud backstop. He still doesn't have tremendous basketball iq and gets into foul trouble.

Each of the Detroit great teams were known for the D. We gave other teams the D hard. Now we are going in with lilp noodles.

[Nastradamus]

The Knicks aren't giving up a cheap young player for an injured 9 mil a year PG.
Nobody is trading for Jennings as anything but an expiring contract.

I don't want Hardaway for what its worth

Offiicially hoping for Turner Thursday. Winslow or Hezonja will make me happy as well. Anything else(Dekker,Booker,Johnson,Kaminsky) will feel like a reach to me if its not a trade down.

[Nastradamus]

Sorry to nitpick and maybe there is some meaning behind it, but shouldn't your name be los gringos.

Otherwise.... Why would we pick up Galli? We would end up having no defense. Does no one on this Detroit board want a defensive minded team at all? It's not like Drummond is a superstud backstop. He still doesn't have tremendous basketball iq and gets into foul trouble.

Each of the Detroit great teams were known for the D. We gave other teams the D hard. Now we are going in with lilp noodles.

Here's my thoughts on that subject.

1. Not a huge Gallo fan. He's being overrated a bit here. He shoots 3s and not a whole lot else. Doesn't rebound,pass or defend. He's more than a spot up shooter though and will help your offense.

2. I believe Drummond can become a special defensive player

3. SVG has a pretty strong defensive track record without always having great defensive players, other than Dwight. I believe in him enough to let him impplement his systems and see if they can get results.

[dd24]

Now there's Dwayne Wade to the Pistons rumors.... Wade is probably trying to use a few teams to get some leverage in Miami.

[ZMonkey11]

Here's my thoughts on that subject.

1. Not a huge Gallo fan. He's being overrated a bit here. He shoots 3s and not a whole lot else. Doesn't rebound,pass or defend. He's more than a spot up shooter though and will help your offense.

2. I believe Drummond can become a special defensive player

3. SVG has a pretty strong defensive track record without always having great defensive players, other than Dwight. I believe in him enough to let him impplement his systems and see if they can get results.

Great track record, no chips. You can argue he got one stolen from him in miami, but still no chips.

I want a championship, not a good team. We win chips in Detroit.

[ZMonkey11]

Now there's Dwayne Wade to the Pistons rumors.... Wade is probably trying to use a few teams to get some leverage in Miami.

Please God no. Last thing we need is DWade's attitude rubbing off on our young players.

[Aussie Dunker]

The Knicks aren't giving up a cheap young player for an injured 9 mil a year PG.
Nobody is trading for Jennings as anything but an expiring contract.

I don't want Hardaway for what its worth

Offiicially hoping for Turner Thursday. Winslow or Hezonja will make me happy as well. Anything else(Dekker,Booker,Johnson,Kaminsky) will feel like a reach to me if its not a trade down.

I think the majority of people would think Turner is a stretch at #8, most mocks I see him going #12 - #15 range,

You must clearly see something special in him, I think I do too. I guess I just feel like he is almost, like a boom or bust player, almost... Huge potential and huge ceiling, I just think we could trade down to say #12 and get more assets and select him.

I have seen Mudiay slipping to the Pistons in a mock just this morning, meaning we would not need to near max Reggie, and can dedicate all those funds to say a Butler... Thoughts on this? (I have not once considered Mudiay at #8, purely because he was ALWAYS a top 4 lock)...

[Aussie Dunker]

Great track record, no chips. You can argue he got one stolen from him in miami, but still no chips.

I want a championship, not a good team. We win chips in Detroit.

Come on man, 10 of the past 16 chips have gone to Pop / Phil,

He deserves half a chip for that Miami Shaq / Wade title,

He got Magic to the finals by upsetting the heavily favored Lebron Cavs team,


I think his track record or ability to take a team to the highest level should not be questioned. No he isn't Pop, he isn't Phil, but he deserves to be on that next tier of guys who are capable of creating champion level teams...

[dd24]

I think the majority of people would think Turner is a stretch at #8, most mocks I see him going #12 - #15 range,

You must clearly see something special in him, I think I do too. I guess I just feel like he is almost, like a boom or bust player, almost... Huge potential and huge ceiling, I just think we could trade down to say #12 and get more assets and select him.

I have seen Mudiay slipping to the Pistons in a mock just this morning, meaning we would not need to near max Reggie, and can dedicate all those funds to say a Butler... Thoughts on this? (I have not once considered Mudiay at #8, purely because he was ALWAYS a top 4 lock)...

If Mudiay slipped to #8 there's no way we could pass on him. That would be crazy though. I really don't see it happening.

[Aussie Dunker]

^^ Yeah me either, but I would have thought he has more chance sliding to 8 than Dre sliding to 9?!@#$? haha, the draft day really can be quite crazy so who knows...

Say Mudiay does slip to 8, we clearly just don't resign Reggie.... Right?

[ZMonkey11]

Come on man, 10 of the past 16 chips have gone to Pop / Phil,

He deserves half a chip for that Miami Shaq / Wade title,

He got Magic to the finals by upsetting the heavily favored Lebron Cavs team,


I think his track record or ability to take a team to the highest level should not be questioned. No he isn't Pop, he isn't Phil, but he deserves to be on that next tier of guys who are capable of creating champion level teams...

I already said you can argue the chip in miami. I kinda led with that. But besides the one run to the finals with Orlando, he's fielded good teams. Heavily favored Cleveland as in the were led by Lebron and mo will?

And in Orlando, didn't they have a haus of a defensive player in mikael pietrus (sp?). We are becoming a team that shoots 3s and nothing else. It's going to be a lil difficult to build a ****ing wall when moose walks and is replaced by a bigger liability on the defensive end in ilyasova.

This team isn't close to what he had in Orlando. That Orlando team would shit on us. We got three point shooters, give me some ****ing defense.

[ZMonkey11]

BTW reread it, I'm not attacking you Aussie. I'm just really angry again at the moves we are making. It hasn't been a good off season for us in a long time.

[Aussie Dunker]

^^ It's all good mate we are all just passionate, all on the same side here,

You think Moose is a better defender than Ilyasova?....... hrmmm...

Orlando was a lot more developed than us, they had a lot more experience, we are still really young and raw.

- Dre has the potential to become a special defender in this league
- KCP has the potential to become one of the better stopper guards in this league,
- Reggie is a big guard that causes problems for opponents PG's,
- If we draft Winslow / Stanley then that is another defensive specialist wing we add.

Combine all that with SVG's dedication to team defense, I think we are going to be fine.

p.s the only reason I say the Cavs were heavily favored is because Vegas had their odds ridiculously low, not many people thought Orl could knock them of... I personally wasn't all that surprised.