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4 ring - 4 FMVP - 4MVP
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Any MVP/FMVP season really.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
Any MVP/FMVP season really.
Except Willis Reed
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Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
THE MOST CLUTCH PLAYOFF PERFORMER of ALL-TIME.
In his 23 MUST WIN PLAYOFF GAMES...
31.1 ppg
26.4 rpg
.540 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .435 in the same span.)
Included were the ONLY THREE 50+ point games. Oh, and a 45-27 MUST WIN FINALS GAME, as well.
There's biased, there's complete nonsense, and then there's this utter bullshit.
Imagine if somebody actually would believe it? How would you feel goddamn, there's children here.
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by SexSymbol
There's biased, there's complete nonsense, and then there's this utter bullshit.
Imagine if somebody actually would believe it? How would you feel goddamn, there's children here.
Of course, unlike YOU, I merely posted actual FACTS.
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MH!
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Once again...just exposing the idiot that you are.
But thanks for playing...
I'm the idiot? You're the turd who basically believes made up BS and portrays them as facts, all the while ignoring ACTUAL FACTS and numbers.
Wilt was a choker and statpadder. Dude played for his numbers and nothing more. Deal with it.
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by aj1987
I'm the idiot? You're the turd who basically believes made up BS and portrays them as facts, all the while ignoring ACTUAL FACTS and numbers.
Wilt was a choker and statpadder. Dude played for his numbers and nothing more. Deal with it.
PROVE IT.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
PROVE IT.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but Wilt's career 7 ppg drop off in the playoffs and 11 ppg drop off in the Finals would probably be a good starting point
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MH!
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
PROVE IT.
.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals
Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18
Default NBA choking rating
Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings
Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I don't have a dog in this fight, but Wilt's career 7 ppg drop off in the playoffs and 11 ppg drop off in the Finals would probably be a good starting point
Of course, you are ignoring CONTEXT. A "scoring" Wilt played in 52 of his 160 post-season games, and in only ONE Finals, out of his SIX. Oh, and 30 of those 52 games were against RUSSELL.
Give me a list of GOATs who averaged 30 ppg, 27 rpg, 5 apg, and shot 10 percentage points over the post-season league eFG%...and likely 8+ bpg, as well,..over the course of their first 67 playoff games. Hell, find me a GOAT who averaged that over the course of ONE playoff SERIES. I doubt you could find a GOAT with ONE playoff GAME with that stat-line...much less over a 67 game span.
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by aj1987
.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals
Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18
Default NBA choking rating
Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings
Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3
That nonsense again?
Find me any legitimate NBA historian who has ever used a formula so full of holes.
GTFO.
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
BTW, Wilt's "decline" in his SIX Finals.
In those six regular seasons, he averaged 23 ppg and 21 rpg. In those six finals, he averaged 19-24. Oh, and he outshot his opposing centers, ALL in the HOF, by a collective margin of .559 to .439 from the floor.
A huge decline alright.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Of course, you are ignoring CONTEXT. A "scoring" Wilt played in 52 of his 160 post-season games, and in only ONE Finals, out of his SIX. Oh, and 30 of those 52 games were against RUSSELL.
Give me a list of GOATs who averaged 30 ppg, 27 rpg, 5 apg, and shot 10 percentage points over the post-season league eFG%...and likely 8+ bpg, as well,..over the course of their first 67 playoff games. Hell, find me a GOAT who averaged that over the course of ONE playoff SERIES. I doubt you could find a GOAT with ONE playoff GAME with that stat-line...much less over a 67 game span.
I'm assuming you consider him a "scoring Wilt" through the '66 season? If so, regular season to postseason ppg drop remains exactly the same, he goes from a 40 ppg regular season scorer to a 33 ppg postseason scorer
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NBA Legend
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I'm assuming you consider him a "scoring Wilt" through the '66 season? If so, regular season to postseason ppg drop remains exactly the same, he goes from a 40 ppg regular season scorer to a 33 ppg postseason scorer
Except, he didn't make the playoffs in a season in which he averaged 44.8 ppg (and also led the NBA in FIFTEEN statistical categories, including WIN SHARES and PER.)
BTW, please post his averages against his OPPOSING CENTERS in those six playoff runs, as compared to how he did against them in his regular season H2H's. For instance, he had HIGHER PPG averages against RUSSELL in '64, '65, and basically the exact same in '66 (except he shot much higher from the floor in the post-season H2H's.) In his '60 and '62 post-seasons against Russell, he STILL averaged 34 and 31 ppg.
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MH!
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
That nonsense again?
Find me any legitimate NBA historian who has ever used a formula so full of holes.
GTFO.
.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals
Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18
Still stands. Dude is the GOAT choker.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Most Complete Seasons
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
BTW, Wilt's "decline" in his SIX Finals.
In those six regular seasons, he averaged 23 ppg and 21 rpg. In those six finals, he averaged 19-24. Oh, and he outshot his opposing centers, ALL in the HOF, by a collective margin of .559 to .439 from the floor.
A huge decline alright.
1964
RS: 35 ppg
F: 29 ppg
1967
RS: 24 ppg
F: 18 ppg
1969
RS: 21 ppg
F: 12 ppg
1970
RS: 27 ppg
F: 23 ppg
1972
RS: 15 ppg
F: 19 ppg
1973
RS: 13 ppg
F: 12 ppg
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