Lebron actually played one season under the old rules

[KNOW1EDGE]

3ball is legit the worst poster on this board

Budaii, Fudge, Russwest0, Hawkfan, Bless Matthews all can vouch that is not true.

[3ball]

As a 19 year old MJ was averaging 13 ppg in college.

how can you think this is logical?.. the college game is a slower-paced game with no shot clock.

jordan's averaged 19.6 PPG as a junior... then he averaged 28.2 PPG as a rookie in the NBA.

this is common for many players going from college to the pros - infact, i guarantee that lebron averages like 14-16 PPG (with great all-round numbers) if he had played in college.

[Kvnzhangyay]

how can you think this is logical?.. the college game is a slower-paced game with no shot clock.

jordan's averaged 19.6 PPG as a junior... then he averaged 28.2 PPG as a rookie in the NBA.

this is common for many players going from college to the pros - infact, i guarantee that lebron averages like 14-16 PPG (with great all-round numbers) if he had played in college.

How can you think its logical to use an 18-19 year old kid as evidence that Lebron would have struggled to play in the "old rules"?

[Hey Yo]

how can you think this is logical?.. the college game is a slower-paced game with no shot clock.

jordan's averaged 19.6 PPG as a junior... then he averaged 28.2 PPG as a rookie in the NBA.

this is common for many players going from college to the pros - infact, i guarantee that lebron averages like 14-16 PPG (with great all-round numbers) if he had played in college.

and couldn't even get his team to the final 4.

[3ball]

He was a rookie straight out of high school

This doesn't explain the MASSIVE JUMP in Lebron's efficiency his 2nd year under the new rules - huge jumps in efficiency like this aren't normal:

Lebron in 2004 under old rules.: 41.7% FG.. 48.8% TS.. 99 ORtg
Lebron in 2005 under new rules: 47.2% FG.. 55.4% TS.. 114 ORtg


Jordan, Magic, Bird - they all shot the same in their 2nd season, as would be expected normally... but not Lebron, because Lebron got to benefit from new rules that were designed to open up the middle of the floor, reduce physicality, and make penetration easier.

Intuitively, there is no real reason why a player's efficiency should increase so much from one season to the next.. But one reason could indeed be rule changes - the fact that there happened to be rule changes the very season that Lebron's efficiency jumped is too much of a coincidence..

Clearly, the rule changes helped his efficiency - and this should not be a surprise or disputable, because it's well known that the rule changes helped EVERYONE'S efficiency.
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[Real14]

3ball living rent free in mad haterz' heads right now

[HomieWeMajor]

OP at 19 was doing ... well maybe we'll find out in 9 years time.

[iamgine]

This doesn't explain the MASSIVE JUMP in Lebron's efficiency his 2nd year under the new rules - huge jumps in efficiency like this aren't normal:

Lebron in 2004 under old rules.: 41.7% FG.. 48.8% TS.. 99 ORtg
Lebron in 2005 under new rules: 47.2% FG.. 55.4% TS.. 114 ORtg

Happened to Kevin Durant.

[Hey Yo]

This doesn't explain the MASSIVE JUMP in Lebron's efficiency his 2nd year under the new rules - huge jumps in efficiency like this aren't normal:

Lebron in 2004 under old rules.: 41.7% FG.. 48.8% TS.. 99 ORtg
Lebron in 2005 under new rules: 47.2% FG.. 55.4% TS.. 114 ORtg


Jordan, Magic, Bird - they all shot the same in their 2nd season, as would be expected normally... but not Lebron, because Lebron got to benefit from new rules that were designed to open up the middle of the floor, reduce physicality, and make penetration easier.

Intuitively, there is no real reason why a player's efficiency should increase so much from one season to the next.. But one reason could indeed be rule changes - the fact that there happened to be rule changes the very season that Lebron's efficiency jumped is too much of a coincidence..

Clearly, the rule changes helped his efficiency - and this should not be a surprise or disputable, because it's well known that the rule changes helped EVERYONE'S efficiency.
.

Actually MJ shot much worse his second season.

Rookie - 51.5 FG%, 59.2 TS%, 118 ORtg

2nd season - 45.7 FG%, 53.3 TS%, 109 ORtg

Which basically means you're full of shit saying he shot the same.

LOL @ 35fga and 13fta per game his second season

[Poetry]

As a 19 year old MJ was averaging 13 ppg in college.

That was his first year, when he was 18.



Also, Dean Smith was famous for using the four-corner stall.

Because there wasn't a shotclock, once they had the lead, they would just run out the clock. That's why the NCAA started using a shotclock. So when you're stalling for 7-8 minutes at a time, there aren't going to be many opportunities to score.

[Jud]

Good god why the **** are you so obsessed with the older rules?? Shut your old imbecile ass up already.

[3ball]

Happened to Kevin Durant.

if i say something is not normal (large increases in efficiency during a player's 2nd season), and you point out one or two exceptions, you are making my point... DUCY?

[pauk]

Meanwhile 18 year old MJ was doing what?

[mehyaM24]

3ball gon' 3ball. guy is stuck in his head & no amount of facts will change that.

Meanwhile 18 year old MJ was doing what?

[Poetry]

Meanwhile 18 year old MJ was doing what?

Getting a college education.