Lebron actually played one season under the old rules

[24-Inch_Chrome]

LOL at you guys trying to defend 41.7% FG, 48% TS, and 99 ORtg.. oh, and it's just coincidence this was the ONE AND ONLY YEAR he played under the old rules.

Yeah, even 40-year old Jordan did better the prior years in both 2002 and 2003 (and he also led his team to 19 more wins).

But again, fortunately for Lebron, since the new rules were implemented in 2005, dribble-penetration has occurred more than any time in history - it has become an automatic, built-in component of the game and all perimeter players have been the beneficiary.
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Where in this thread did ANYONE say that LeBron was better than Jordan? Oh yeah, no one did. Stop being so insecure and shut the **** up.

[Kvnzhangyay]

straight from high school lol

[iamgine]

As a 19 year old MJ was averaging 13 ppg in college.

This.

[Elosha]

You know 3Ball... Jordan's my favorite player and I firmly believe he's the GOAT. I've watched ball religiously since 1982. I do appreciate, at times, some of your points. But you are just asking for failure in trying to downgrade Lebron's rookie year, when he was a freaking just out of high school player in his first year of the NBA. He's A 18 YEAR OLD ROOKIE IN HIS FIRST SEASON. It was a very nice first season, and he won rookie of the year. Was it as good as Jordan's rookie year? No. But it's ridiculous to try to use LBJ's ROOKIE year, under the old rules, as a proxy for how he would have continued to play had the old rules stayed in effect.

Certainly the older rules would have made things a bit more difficult for him, but he's an all time great. He would still have had spectacular numbers, just as Jordan would have incredible numbers if he played today. You're not going to seriously hold down all time greats, no matter what system or rules are being implemented.

My advice to you is simply don't reach so much in these threads. Jordan's the best player out there by many metrics, eye test, career accolades, especially when combining those factors. But really, stop reaching.

[Roundball_Rock]

So even if we accept that 03' Jordan>04' LeBron what does that prove???

Face it, Jordan played in an era (speaking of 1985-1993, which included his prime and peak years), where scoring was much higher, elite scorers took far more shots and played far more minutes than they do today. You would not find a player averaging 40 mpg, 28 FGA per game to score 37 ppg or even 39 mpg, 26 FGA to score 33 ppg on a championship team today. The game has evolved away from hero/isolation ball, evolved toward an emphasis on efficiency and team ball and towards limiting minutes of players (except Thibs ).

Look at minutes. Irving is second this year at 37.3. That would not even rank him in the top 10 in 90% of seasons from 1960-2010.

The bottom line is the notion that today's players have inflated stats is false. If anything a guy like LeBron would post greater stats if he played in the 80's or early 90's than he has in the past few years (i.e. 2010-2015) where the above trends have taken root.

[Uncle Drew]

As a 19 year old MJ was averaging 13 ppg in college.

/thread

[nzahir]

3ball is the worst poster on here no lie

[KNOW1EDGE]

Roundball Rock with the slay using facts and statistics instead of opinion and hyperbole.

But nobody cares to respond to facts, they'd rather deflect and continue with the LeBron sux agenda.

[Megabox!]

If a 19 year old fresh out of high school LBJ was posting numbers like that against the old rules then just imagine the 09', 12', and 13' versions of him domination

[Im Still Ballin]

Give me your home address 3ball

I'm going to beat your ass

[Smoke117]

3ball beating his current shtick to death: dribble-penetration

[PistonsFan#21]

As a 19 year old MJ was averaging 13 ppg in college.

[Hey Yo]

Pete Myers

[navy]

3ball is legit the worst poster on this board

[AirBourne92]

i dont know who is cornier, 3ball, or all the lebron nut huggers