how many players have been argued as the GOAT

[SpecialQue]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]For me it

[kennethgriffin]

The goat to me is whos career youd want surgically attached to your team going forward

Kareems career is undisputed goat

Even I dont believe kobe is the goat. But he has had millions argue in his favor at certain times

[MJistheGOAT]

But the bigger mystery is, who do you personally think is the GOAT? For the life of me I can't figure out who your choice is.

Hard to notice ...

Seriously speaking, I have MJ as GOAT, but I accept the Wilt and KAJ arguments without too much problems.

[kennethgriffin]

I think the percentage of people who thought kobe was goat went up and down throughoit the years


2006 - 30%
2007 - 25%
2008 - 20%
2009 - 25%
2010 - 30%
2011 - 15%
2012 - 20%
2013 - 25%
2014 - right now 15%. When he passed mj in points -25%

It goes up and down. One day youre trash. The next day youre a triple double goat candidate

People are all about what you did lately

[SpecialQue]

Hard to notice ...

Seriously speaking, I have MJ as GOAT, but I accept the Wilt and KAJ arguments without too much problems.

My pick's Kareem, but really, a convincing case can be made for any of those. I throw Magic into the mix because he's my favorite player and I think he had the greatest overall career since Russell.

[GrapeApe]

During his peak milestones he was above 25% of the population for minimal requirements to be known as "argued"

I never said he had a majority

What population? Jordan, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, and Bird have all been argued as GOAT by reputable, knowledgeable, and credible individuals. In terms of popularity, perhaps Kobe can be argued as number one, but popularity doesn't constitue him being legitimately in the GOAT discussion.

[MJistheGOAT]

My pick's Kareem, but really, a convincing case can be made for any of those. I throw Magic into the mix because he's my favorite player and I think he had the greatest overall career since Russell.

Outside of that GOAT trio, I consider Magic and Bird a little short case because of defense, longevity and stacked teams.

But same skilled/high IQ/crafty Bird with MJ athleticism = undisputed GOAT.

[GrapeApe]

Outside of that GOAT trio, I consider Magic and Bird a little short case because of defense, longevity and stacked teams.

But same skilled/high IQ/crafty Bird with MJ athleticism = undisputed GOAT.

Russell was certainly in the discussion at one point.

[Micku]

they were never really argued as the goat. were always in the shadows of russell/wilt/kareem IMO

Nah, they had GOAT talks. In the mid 80s, Bird was getting GOAT talks. That was the peak of his talks. Magic got GOAT talks in the late 80s, but not as much as Bird. Bird had a lot of hype.

MJ got GOAT talks in the late 80s too tho. They pretty much called him GOAT and one man army or something along those lines. But they bashed him for taking too many shots at times compared to Magic and Bird until he won and then it just spiked up from there.

Anyway, you still have ppl who think that Magic was the GOAT b-ball player. As well as Kareem, Russell, Wilt and MJ.

[plowking]

they were never really argued as the goat. were always in the shadows of russell/wilt/kareem IMO

Actually Bird was being called the GOAT while playing. Magic never got that praise, but Bird certainly did.

[MJistheGOAT]

Nah, they had GOAT talks. In the mid 80s, Bird was getting GOAT talks. That was the peak of his talks. Magic got GOAT talks in the late 80s.

MJ got GOAT talks in the late 80s too tho. They pretty much called him GOAT and one man army or something along those lines. But they bashed him for taking too many shots at times compared to Magic and Bird until he won and then it just spiked up from there.

Anyway, you still have ppl who think that Magic was the GOAT b-ball player. As well as Kareem, Russell, Wilt and MJ.

I consider Russell a not so strong case because of offense and epic stacked teams compared to competition, when Wilt arrived, he often rape Russell in individual duels, but lost because of weaker teams [COLOR="White"](and choking)[/COLOR]

[PsychoBe]

Actually Bird was being called the GOAT while playing. Magic never got that praise, but Bird certainly did.

because he was white

[Micku]

I consider Russell a not so strong case because of offense and epic stacked teams compared to competition, when Wilt arrived, he often rape Russell in individual duels, but lost because of weaker teams [COLOR="White"](and choking)[/COLOR]

It's ok if you don't think so. I'm just saying Russell had GOAT talks. You still find articles of ppl writing Russell as the GOAT player. Not nearly as many as MJ, but you still find them. This is all subjective.

because he was white

Yeah, it contributed to the hype. Before he came into the league, they called him the great white hope. Prime Bird had the skills to back it up tho. Dude was the best player in game for a bit there. Him and Magic basically revolutionize the game.

[MJistheGOAT]

It's ok if you don't think so. I'm just saying Russell had GOAT talks. You still find articles of ppl writing Russell as the GOAT player. Not nearly as many as MJ, but you still find them. This is all subjective.

Ok, i was only giving my opinion. When were the GOAT Russel talks (60s pre-Wilt??)

[bdreason]

Russell
Wilt
Kareem
MJ



I was young, but I don't remember people arguing that Bird or Magic were in the GOAT discussion over guys like Russell or Wilt... or Kareem, who was still playing and racking up titles. Since Kareem only MJ has really been argued as GOAT, and nobody since MJ has had a legit argument.