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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
In AAU we had an all white team, but we played fundamental basketball.
We played in a tourney against a team of like, I kid you not, an AAU team of guys all 6'4" and taller. They were throwing lobs to each other in warm ups, laughing it up.
When the game started, the first lob someone threw up, I stepped right over in front of the dude and he took a spill. He actually got called for the foul. From that point on, it was a slaughter. I stepped on so many ankles, I elbowed so many hip bones, I boxed out on peoples thighs all game.
We beat the shit out of them.
It goes both ways, but what I've come to find, is if you can play basketball the way its supposed to be played, with angles and sharp passes and fundamentals, no amount of athleticism will help you. To a certain point its an advantage, but if you play 1950s fundamental basketball and are smart about it, you can't beat it. Hard screens, sharp cuts, boxing out.
That team we beat went to nationals. No idea how they did, but I imagine they did pretty well.
Last edited by UK2K; 12-23-2014 at 05:03 AM.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Originally Posted by UK2K
In AAU we had an all white team, but we played fundamental basketball.
We played in a tourney against a team of like, I kid you not, an AAU team of guys all 6'4" and taller. They were throwing lobs to each other in warm ups, laughing it up.
When the game started, the first lob someone threw up, I stepped right over in front of the dude and he took a spill. He actually got called for the foul. From that point on, it was a slaughter. I stepped on so many ankles, I elbowed so many hip bones, I boxed out on peoples thighs all game.
We beat the shit out of them.
It goes both ways, but what I've come to find, is if you can play basketball the way its supposed to be played, with angles and sharp passes and fundamentals, no amount of athleticism will help you.
True but the black team in question in the game I found is actually really really good, like those guys are moving the ball and hitting shots from everywhere... they also happen to use their length and athleticism to block like 20 of the other teams shots and sweep up the lion share of rebounds, which the other team had no answers for
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Whites dominate highschool basketball and football. They just can't produce enough talent at college and pro level.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
True but the black team in question in the game I found is actually really really good, like those guys are moving the ball and hitting shots from everywhere... they also happen to use their length and athleticism to block like 20 of the other teams shots and sweep up the lion share of rebounds, which the other team had no answers for
The one area it does give you a big advantage is shot blocking, but our center was about 6'4" 280. His drop step with his wide ass negated any kind of blocking they could try.
That's why I like guys like Rondo so much. Watching him play, its like art. The way he sees the game, he leads cutters like a quarterback, he plays the angles, he does the little things. He's a gamer.
People hate on the Spurs, but if you are a basketball fan, a TRUE basketball fan, you can't help but to like them. The way they move the ball so smoothly, if you watch anybody who doesnt have the ball, they're never standing around, always back screening and drifting to corners, always maneuvering for position.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Originally Posted by JohnMax
White teams dominate highschool basketball and football. They just can't produce enough talent at college and pro level.
Blacks dominate high school basketball because they're usually far superior athletically.
But a team that plays as one unit is tough to beat. See: Spurs, San Antonio
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Cool video. The two forwards for Marshal really dominated the game defensively. Interesting how both teams pressed most of the game, without much success.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Originally Posted by bdreason
Cool video. The two forwards for Marshal really dominated the game defensively. Interesting how both teams pressed most of the game, without much success.
I've watched a few championship games from that channel and time period. IL basketball championship games from that time seem pretty competitive, almost all the teams I've watched have very accurate shooters.
1956 - note both teams are integrated with a mix of black and white players, interesting because most of America was not this way at that time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUZ6euz50Q
1961 - Chick Hearn sighting!
http://youtu.be/8u4e69Jo85M?t=5m2s
1963 - sound and video, very competitive/close game pretty cool to watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVC3tuX5ojA
Last edited by CavaliersFTW; 12-23-2014 at 05:39 AM.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
So true! Watching the Spurs play their game is a thing of beauty and beats the hell out of watching iso after iso.
Originally Posted by UK2K
The one area it does give you a big advantage is shot blocking, but our center was about 6'4" 280. His drop step with his wide ass negated any kind of blocking they could try.
That's why I like guys like Rondo so much. Watching him play, its like art. The way he sees the game, he leads cutters like a quarterback, he plays the angles, he does the little things. He's a gamer.
People hate on the Spurs, but if you are a basketball fan, a TRUE basketball fan, you can't help but to like them. The way they move the ball so smoothly, if you watch anybody who doesnt have the ball, they're never standing around, always back screening and drifting to corners, always maneuvering for position.
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
Everybody was shooting the mid range jumper on prime Rip's level
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Re: All-white suburban team vs all black Chicago team for IL HS Championship 1960
High school players in the 60's had better fundamentals than some of the guys that just play one year in college today. They don't teach fundamentals today. Sad.
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