What year did Kobe's decline begin?

[Mr Feeny]

5-5 in the last 10 games

Here's another idiot. Why are you mentioning the last ten games specifically? A near 40 year old MJ led his team to a 0.500 record. Current Kobe is in the process of leading them to a sub 30 win season.

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[chazzy]

You must be the thickest bellend on here to think that 2009 Lebron is better than the 2012-2013 one who was shooting 54-56 percent and who had one historic Playoff and finals performance after another.
Get back to Kobe's jock. PRIME Kobe in the middle of his his two rings as lead dog couldn't get CLOSE to pre-Miami Lebron.

38.5, 8, 8 on 48%fg
Vs
34, 7, 4 on 43%fg

Cry me a river, and enjoy seeing your chucker tarnish his legacy.
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First off, why did you make this about Lebron? All I said was that Kobe's 09 season was the beginning of his decline. No one would argue he was better than 08 that year. And then you come here, "bellend" in hand, stroking something suspect about your boy and while referencing thickness continuously.

It's reasonable to debate that 2012, and to a much lesser extent, 2013 Lebron was his peak. But to pretend that 2009 Lebron was pre-prime? That's ridiculous even for a new player fan like yourself. At least know the history of the player you stan for. Compare those ECF stats to any Miami series and argue with yourself about who's better, because going by your logic, Miami Bron isn't CLOSE to 09 Bron.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Production, and physical capability wise ... 2009, and 2010 LeBron are the best we'll ever see. I think the start of LeBron's prime was in the 2008 season.

It's arguable 2009, and 2010 could actually be his peak. From an individual perspective it was the most frightening he ever was as a player. Which is ultimately how I judge what a peak is for a player.

LeBron's 2009 regular season was great, his playoffs were greater.
LeBron's 2010 regular season was great, his playoffs were good (quit)
LeBron's 2011 regular season was good, his playoffs were good (quit)
LeBron's 2012 regular season was good, his playoffs were great
LeBron's 2013 regular season was good, his playoffs were okay.
LeBron's 2014 regular season was good, his playoffs were okay.

2009 actually may be his greatest individual season when you combine his play in regular and post season.

As for Kobe, his prime was from 2001 - 2008. Peak being arguably 2003, or 2006. Along with 2007, those were the years he was definitely most frightening as a player.