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Born again Cavs fan
Adam Silver on Tanking
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12...am-trying-tank
"No Player is trying to Lose" - Adam Silver
"Legitimate Rebuilding Process", sure thing Mr. Commissioner. I guess tanking is a legitimate rebuilding process in the NBA now. Pretty much confirmed by how he dodged around using the word tanking.
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Curry fam
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
He's right, no player is trying to lose. But what he forgot to mention is that GMs put together bad rosters and coaches develop players with no intention of winning as many games as possible, ie tanking.
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NBA All-star
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
that is why the best team that missed the playoffs should be rewarded and get #1 pick. Make it difficult for GM's to get the #1 pick, nobody is going to miss out on the playoffs for a #1 pick. Players wouldn't stand for it and fans would riot.
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Banned
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
There are changes that can be made concerning the minimum salary cap - if teams don't meet it, then they have to pay a luxury tax. And also, the amount counted towards the cap has to go to a certain percentage of players who actually actively play (so Richardson's contract would be reduced or not count at all).
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Burning Spirit!
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
How many #1 overall picks actually win anything for the teams that drafted them in the past 2 decades anyway? Tim Duncan, and that's it?
Tanking is very fine with the current system since high draft picks never guarantee tanking teams' future successes anyway.
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well well well
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by navy
He's right, no player is trying to lose. But what he forgot to mention is that GMs put together bad rosters and coaches develop players with no intention of winning as many games as possible, ie tanking.
This
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Banned
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
How many #1 overall picks actually win anything for the teams that drafted them in the past 2 decades anyway? Tim Duncan, and that's it?
Tanking is very fine with the current system since high draft picks never guarantee tanking teams' future successes anyway.
Let's see what happens with Minnesota - two overall no. 1 picks. Too early to tell, but let's see.
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NBA All-star
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
How many #1 overall picks actually win anything for the teams that drafted them in the past 2 decades anyway? Tim Duncan, and that's it?
Tanking is very fine with the current system since high draft picks never guarantee tanking teams' future successes anyway.
It gives them good assets, both in the draft but also through other teams when they have their yard sales to prepare for a tank.
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Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Tanking is the smart thing to do in cases where you have zero chance to win a championship.
There is nothing worse than always finishing just out of the playoffs.
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NBA Legend
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Tanking to get an "Exum"...
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National High School Star
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
Tanking is the smart thing to do in cases where you have zero chance to win a championship.
There is nothing worse than always finishing just out of the playoffs.
Name one successful team that actively "tanked" during the past decade or two. Tanking is different than being bad. It's one thing to put together the best team possible and lose, it's another to try to lose on purpose.
Lakers don't tank.
Celtics didn't tank to win their chip.
Mavs didn't tank
Spurs didn't actively tank for Duncan, they were just missing their best player in Robinson.
Heat didn't tank.
That's more than half of the championships right there, how is tanking smart? Not only it discourages losing, you're not developing/disciplining players correctly. It's much smarter to sign good players and develope chemistry together. Obviously be smart with signings and don't overpay players, but that's what you've got to do to succeed in this league.
The Sixers are going nowhere, with their 3 years of tanking they're not really looking good. Neither are the wolves.
As soon as the Heat got Wade in 03 they put a team around him to win.
Same with Lebron (though the cavs management sucked). At least they didn't "tank" another few years to pair them together with another prospect which almost never lead to good results.
Good teams don't tank. Not to mention the owner is basically throwing away the season and probably losing profits during a tanking season. Nothing good really comes out of it.
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Sixers|Eagles|Phillies
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
I see nothing wrong with what teams are attempting to do. I find it funny so many are up in arms, want drastic changes.
Originally Posted by Nash
that is why the best team that missed the playoffs should be rewarded and get #1 pick. Make it difficult for GM's to get the #1 pick, nobody is going to miss out on the playoffs for a #1 pick. Players wouldn't stand for it and fans would riot.
That's retarded.
Last edited by GOBB; 12-20-2014 at 04:02 PM.
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I miss open layups
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by Nash
that is why the best team that missed the playoffs should be rewarded and get #1 pick. Make it difficult for GM's to get the #1 pick, nobody is going to miss out on the playoffs for a #1 pick. Players wouldn't stand for it and fans would riot.
That would just make it chaotic at the end of the season with teams sitting out player or "tanking" to just miss the playoffs.
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Titles are overrated
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
that is why the best team that missed the playoffs should be rewarded and get #1 pick. Make it difficult for GM's to get the #1 pick, nobody is going to miss out on the playoffs for a #1 pick. Players wouldn't stand for it and fans would riot.
Id say maybe make the lottery for picks 1, 2, and 3 with the teams with the bottom 3 records slightly more likely to win. Maybe give each of them 10% of the balls. But even among those 3...with the rest of the lottery teams given 6.5 or so%. Then all teams that dont win the top 3 go into a new drawing that is weighted in order of best record out of the playoffs. So all non playoff teams are in for 1-2-3....then 4-14 by drawing...team with the best record gets the most balls...down to the team with the worst getting the least. And remove the rule where the top 3 cant drop out of the top 4 picks.
The worst teams would have a better chance than the marginal at #1-3...but not by as much as they do now(Right now its 25, 20, and 15.6% far as the 3 worst teams chance to get #1). Then id reward the barely out of the playoff teams by giving them a better shot at the high lottery picks.
Any lottery team could still win the top pick...but the worst team has a worse chance....and the best teams have a chance to rise instead of being locked into order if they dont win like they are now.
You would see a lot of teams like last years suns get the 4th pick....
And the lottery would actually be exciting. Id laugh my ass off if some team tanks all year only to get the 11th pick while a team trying to win...that just isnt good...gets #4.
I wouldnt mind that at all.
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National High School Star
Re: Adam Silver on Tanking
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
How many #1 overall picks actually win anything for the teams that drafted them in the past 2 decades anyway? Tim Duncan, and that's it?
Tanking is very fine with the current system since high draft picks never guarantee tanking teams' future successes anyway.
It's not just about the 1st overall pick. Getting a top 5 pick gives you a shot at a future all star. Most teams don't have the luxury of signing superstar free agents and it's pretty hard to get a star through trade. The draft is how small market teams have any shot of competing.
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