If not for the lockout in 99 & 12, Kobe would already be past Jordan in points

[LAZERUSS]

If we make a conservative estimate of Wilt right out of high school, with 3,300 points per season average in the four years he was either with KU or the Globies, and then add on some games to seasons that didn't have a full 82 games, he'd have 45,400 total points. It really is a shame that for all the records Wilt has that are way way out of reach, his total career points wasn't one of them, because it deserves to be.

Not only that, but had Chamberlain WANTED to, he could have scored MUCH more in his career.

If anyone needs evidence of that, just take a look at his scoring from '66-67 thru his first nine games of his '69-70 season.

In his '67 season, he "only" averaged 24.1 ppg, but on a staggering .683 FG%. Furthermore, he had a 58 point game that season (as well as a 42 point game on 18-18 shooting from the field.) Rick Barry would go on to win the scoring title that year, at 35.6 ppg, but even he acknowledged that he only won it "because Wilt didn't want it."

In his '68 season, Wilt once again, "only" averaged 24.3 ppg. However, he had the FOUR highest scoring games in the NBA that season, with games of 52, 53, 53, and 68 points.

His '69 season was particularly interesting. He had forced a trade to the Lakers, where he ran into the incompetent coaching of Butch Van Breda Kolff. The idiotic VBK not only had Wilt playing the high post, he was also benching him at times. Chamberlain's scoring took a dramatic decline, and it got so bad that SI ran this article that hit the news-stands on 1/27/69:

http://www.si.com/vault/1969/01/27/5...but-in-trouble

The main problem on the court is not that Chamberlain, Baylor and West do not get the ball enough. It is that Chamberlain will not—[COLOR="DarkRed"]or cannot[/COLOR]—go to the basket when he does get it. In other words, the fantastic Laker juggernaut lacks a sufficient offense to carry it; the team has been reduced to depending on its defense.

Guess what...on the night before the article hit the news-stands, on 1/26/69, Chamberlain hung the first of TWO 60+ point games within a span of 10 days. In fact, over the course of 17 straight games, Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg. Included was a 35 point beatdown of Russell, which was his highest scoring game against Russell since the clinching game five of the '66 EDF's.



Then, in his '69-70 season, Chamberlain's new coach, Joe Mullaney, came to Wilt and asked him to become the focal point of the offense again. In his first nine games, Wilt was leading the league in scoring, at 32.2 ppg (and on a .579 FG%, to go along with his 20 rpg.) Unfortunately, in that ninth game, in a game in which Chamberlain scored 33 points in 28 minutes (and on 13-14 shooting from the field), Wilt shredded his knee, and was never the dominant scorer he had been after that.


In any case, there is simply NO DOUBT, that had Wilt WANTED to score more, he WOULD have.

[Smoke117]

Stop trying so hard, bro.

[Cold soul]

Still not Top 10 all time.

How sad.

Yes, he is come on now. Anyway Kobe would of surpassed MJ in scoring a few years ago only playing 6 games last year and few lockouts have made it misleading that being 19th season of passing MJ.

[DaRkJaWs]

Laz I've seen you write a few times that chamberlain had a 29/35 game which was his 66 or 60 point game in 1969. Where do you have the stats for these games? From what I remember in one of these games, I believe his 60 point game, his fg% was only 22/60. Plz show me the stats for the last of his 60 point games.

[LAZERUSS]

Laz I've seen you write a few times that chamberlain had a 29/35 game which was his 66 or 60 point game in 1969. Where do you have the stats for these games? From what I remember in one of these games, I believe his 60 point game, his fg% was only 22/60. Plz show me the stats for the last of his 60 point games.

If you need EVERY one of his games, you can go to http://www.nbastats.net, and then click on Wilt near the middle of the screen. It will load an excel spreadsheet.

BTW, his stat-line in that 60 point game (against Dierking) in '69...was

60 points, 21 rebounds, 22-36 FG/FGA, and 16-24 FT/FTA.

You can also take a look at this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ints_in_a_game

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Stop bitching. Jordan didn't play at all for about a season and a half while in his prime. Kobe would have no chance if he played those years.

Not to mention the THREE years of college ball that KoMe didn't do. Plus Age 30-32, 35-38 Mike missed.

14 years for Mike = 19 years of Kobe. Sound about right - Kobe's about 65% as good as Mike was.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Of course, Kareem also played FOUR YEARS of COLLEGE ball, as well.

Can you imagine the numbers that a Kareem (and Wilt) would have put up had they jumped right to the NBA out of high school?

This. Kareem would have probably 45k points and Jordan at least 38-39k had they not gone to college.