Career-high single-season PER (Anthony Davis vs Wilt, LeBron, Jordan, etc)

[magnax1]

His PER is just high because he never turns the ball over-further showcasing that PER is just built in a stupid way.

[kennethgriffin]

per is so stupid

give me wilts 50ppg season any day of the week.

obviously way too much credit is given to blocks.


considering wilts blocks werent record. so davis's 4 blocks to wilts 0 puts his PER higher?

give me a break. even without the blocks anyone with 50+ppg and 20+rpg should have a value twice that of an anthony davis

PER Is ****ing retarded

[Anaximandro1]

Problems with PER


-depends on the team structure and varies across eras (was Karl Malone better than Magic/Bird ?)

-declines in the late stages of the NBA playoffs (there was, however, one notable exception)







-Moreover, PER is not a reliable measure of a player's defensive impact.


-That said, the combination of H2H, PER, WS/48, USG% and ORtg - DRtg works reasonably well.


Anthony Davis is a beast, but 1) he needs to show that he can do it in the playoffs ; 2) he needs a real rival

Wilt/Russell, Wilt/Kareem, Kareem/Moses, Hakeem/Ewing, Robinson/Hakeem, Barkley/Malone, Duncan/Shaq, Duncan/Dirk, etc

[3ball]

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[CavaliersFTW]

Let's be real Wilts PER with his advanced stats like blocks and steals would probably be over 40 for multiple seasons

[RoseCity07]

There is a long way to go in the year. Davis doesn't belong on that list because they season isn't complete.


And just lol at people that bash PER. It's a mathematical formula you retards. It applies equally to all players.

[3ball]

Let's be real Wilts PER with his advanced stats like blocks and steals would probably be over 40 for multiple seasons

take all those open shots or play-finishes that davis got last night (12 of his 16 makes) - wilt would get all those, plus wilt would overpower defenders in numerous other spots that davis wouldn't be able to.

back the day, it was impossible to score 43 by getting such a high proportion of open shots and play-finishes - you had to create your own shot and score ON defenders much more to get 43.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Let's be real Wilts PER with his advanced stats like blocks and steals would probably be over 40 for multiple seasons

You think Wilt could get a PER of 20 at his peak in the modern era?

[La Frescobaldi]

There is a long way to go in the year. Davis doesn't belong on that list because they season isn't complete.


And just lol at people that bash PER. It's a mathematical formula you retards. It applies equally to all players.

No, not equally to all players, at all. If you knew more about PER you would bash it too.

It changes meaning when some rules change; and it adds points for blocks and steals which were not stats at all prior to 1974.

A guy like Jerry West gets zero credit for steals.... the same zero as Don Ohl or some bench guy. But the Logo had torrid numbers of steals and gets no credit at all. Russell is world famous for blocked shots.... he gets a zero.

Using it to measure across eras... or anyone before 1974.... is positively a mathematical fallacy.

See? Bash away! Bashing is accurate and fun!!

[Psileas]

No, not equally to all players, at all. If you knew more about PER you would bash it too.

It changes meaning when some rules change; and it adds points for blocks and steals which were not stats at all prior to 1974.

A guy like Jerry West gets zero credit for steals.... the same zero as Don Ohl or some bench guy. But the Logo had torrid numbers of steals and gets no credit at all. Russell is world famous for blocked shots.... he gets a zero.

Using it to measure across eras... or anyone before 1974.... is positively a mathematical fallacy.

See? Bash away! Bashing is accurate and fun!!

Also: The way it accounts for pace is unrealistic, not only implying that stats improve or worsen in a linear way (20 ppg for a player per 80 possessions = 30 ppg per 120 possessions), thus, ignoring factors like fatigue or fouling trouble, it also implies that pace affects all players the same, regardless of position, speed/quickness, ability to create personal/team plays, etc.

[pauk]

Nice but Anthony Davis would probably not even be in the top 25 there if we went by all-time best 11 game stretches.

[pauk]

Let's be real Wilts PER with his advanced stats like blocks and steals would probably be over 40 for multiple seasons

It would go up indeed but not likely that much, unless he averaged like 10 spg & 10 bpg, but then there is turnovers aswell which depending on how much he had could bottleneck that advantage somewhat. PER unfortunately factors in productions per minute & possession, that is what is really keeping his PER down (and all those 60s / sub 60s players). He played like literally entire games & was in a era where they averaged more poss. per game than in any era/decade ever, especially those Russell & Wilt teams.