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T'Bagging LeBron Fam
Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Long careers, great stats, but no rings.
Karl Malone?
Tracy Mcgrady?
Charles Barkely?
Carmelo Anthony?
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Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Kobe if he never met Shaq
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Adrian Dantley. In 82 season:
30.3 ppg on 57%, 6.3 rpg, 4 apg, 63% TS
His team record was 27-55.
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Decent college freshman
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Wilt in '63
44.8 ppg, 24.3 rpg, 3.4 apg, 52.8 fg%
Led the league in games played, mpg, ppg, rpg, and fg%
31.8 per - the highest ever
Team went 31-49 and missed the playoffs
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NBA Superstar
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Wilt, David Robinson, Dantley, Moses, Chuck and Lebron
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Long Live The Process
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
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OH! Blocked By James!!
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
kevin love. role player in disguise
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King of LA
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
kobe, durant, melo, bosh, kyrie, love
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
kobe, durant, melo, bosh, kyrie, love
No Wade?
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Local High School Star
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Wilt and Dantley are probably the 2 best answers here. Wilt because coaches at the time had never seen a talent like Wilt, and didn't know how to utilize him; Dantley because of the way he played.
Wilt is also the most underrated superstar by far in my opinion. It really frustrates me to see him ranked in the bottom half of the top 10, something I'll never understand. Wilt at his best was Duncan with slightly better defense, much better rebounding, shooting 15% better from the field, and averaging as many assists as Lebron James, yet I still see people ranking him below Duncan for some reason. I guess I somewhat understand trolling and that he has polarizing fans on this site, but ranking him outside 1-4 just doesn't make sense to me considering what he was as a basketball player.
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NBA Legend
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Wilt in '63
44.8 ppg, 24.3 rpg, 3.4 apg, 52.8 fg%
Led the league in games played, mpg, ppg, rpg, and fg%
31.8 per - the highest ever
Team went 31-49 and missed the playoffs
Probably the greatest season ever by ONE player. Chamberlain led the league in FIFTEEN statistical categories, and had advanced stats like Offensive and Defensive rebounding, TRB%, blocked shots, etc, been recodred, and he would certainly have led in many more.
BTW, his TEAM, with ZERO surrounding talent, had a ppg differential of only -2.1, and lost 35 games by single digits (and were only involved in eight games decided by 20+ points, and went 4-4 in those.)
Furthermore, Chamberlain ran away with the WIN-SHARE mark that year, with a 20.9 rating, on a team that won 31 games. So Wilt was SINGLE-HANDEDLY responsible for 70% of his TEAM's wins.
How bad was that roster? They played SIXTEEN different players, and several only played a few games in their NBA careers.
You want an even better example. The Warriors new coach in 63-64, Alex Hannum, conducted a pre-season scrimmage, sans Wilt, with the veterans going against a cast of rookies and rejects. Guess which team won?
Oh, and WILT single-handedly carried THAT team to a 48-32 record and a Western Conference title. Then, in the WDF's, Chamberlain carried that team to a seven game series win over a Hawks team that was better, players 2-6, than what Chamberlain was surrounded with...in a series in which Chamberlain averaged 39 ppg, 23 rpg, and shot .559 from the field (in a post-season NBA that averaged 105.8 ppg on a .420 eFG%.)
True, his team lost to Russell's HOF-laden Celtics in the Finals (Boston had EIGHT HOFers), 4-1. BUT, the last two games were decided in the waning seconds, AND, Wilt just MURDERED Russell in that series. He outscored Russell, per game, 29.2 ppg to 11.2 ppg; outrebounded Russell, per game, 27.8 rpg to 25.2 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field by a .517 to .386 margin. The reality was, Russell was holding on for dear life that series.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Originally Posted by DatAsh
Wilt and Dantley are probably the 2 best answers here. Wilt because coaches at the time had never seen a talent like Wilt, and didn't know how to utilize him; Dantley because of the way he played.
Wilt is also the most underrated superstar by far in my opinion. It really frustrates me to see him ranked in the bottom half of the top 10, something I'll never understand. Wilt at his best was Duncan with slightly better defense, much better rebounding, shooting 15% better from the field, and averaging as many assists as Lebron James, yet I still see people ranking him below Duncan for some reason. I guess I somewhat understand trolling and that he has polarizing fans on this site, but ranking him outside 1-4 just doesn't make sense to me considering what he was as a basketball player.
Wilt was never as good as Duncan on defense what r u smokin
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Local High School Star
Re: Who is the GOAT of empty stats?
Originally Posted by Micku
Adrian Dantley. In 82 season:
30.3 ppg on 57%, 6.3 rpg, 4 apg, 63% TS
His team record was 27-55.
Came to say this.
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