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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
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Top 5 Arguments for Jordan Over Lebron, both Physically and Skill-Wise:
1) Better hops off a vertical so he scored better in traffic
2) Not just quick for his size, but true guard quickness for > mismatches vs. bigger defenders
3) Goat scoring ability allowed MJ to take on the largest load and attract maximum defensive attention to free up teammates, while Lebron undertook too small a load in the 2014 Finals, causing him to not attract enough defensive attention to facilitate his passing game and free up teammates - Lebron had as many turnovers as assists so his passing added no value to his team in the 2014 Finals.
4) Not only could Jordan take on the aforementioned maximum offensive load to attract maximum defensive attention and free up teammates, but his superior scoring versatility (including off-ball skill) allowed him to take on that maximum load while scoring in whatever capacity allowed star teammates to play to their strengths (i.e. with Jordan off-ball, Pippen was free to be the more ball-dominant point-forward).
5) Factors 1-4 above enabled Jordan to control his own destiny better - translation: 6 for 6:
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Jeremy Lin beat you
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
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Curry fam
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by Kidbasketball20
The team would have built for JORDAN'S NEEDS not LeBron's needs and instead of getting a ton of spot up shooters (what's best for LeBron) they would have gotten a ton of big men who rebound and defend.
Just like Everyone wanted to play with LeBron and take paycuts, Jordan would have had ANYONE available to him to play for league minimum.
Jordan would go 4-0
You idiot. The Heat have been trying to get bigs for years. It has nothing to do with Lebron, everything to do with the price tag capable bigs command. Why do you think they gambled on the likes of Anderson, Odn, Turiaf and more.
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National High School Star
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
3/4 2014 Spurs were on a mission this year.
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Buck Dynasty
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by navy
They win in 2011 that's it.
What the f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck?
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Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
There's no way in hell jordan wins without rebounders, no one can deny this
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Down with GLOBALISM
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
This is stupid.
And where is wade gonna play? Center?
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Jeremy Lin beat you
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by navy
Oh really? Lebron plays pf because Bos is their only capable big.
Jordan would have played PF?
Bosh would have played PF and they would have signed a competent Center instead of Ray Allen, Mike Miller etc...
Had Jordan gone to a stacked Miami team like LeBron did and had the ENTIRE organization cater to his needs he would have gone 4-0.
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big time kobe stan
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by Kidbasketball20
The team would have built for JORDAN'S NEEDS not LeBron's needs and instead of getting a ton of spot up shooters (what's best for LeBron) they would have gotten a ton of big men who rebound and defend.
Just like Everyone wanted to play with LeBron and take paycuts, Jordan would have had ANYONE available to him to play for league minimum.
Jordan would go 4-0
If they would have built the team differently then your entire thread is irrelevant.
But thanks for admitting that Jordan wouldn't do shit with Miami's garbage roster!
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Jeremy Lin beat you
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
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Curry fam
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by Milbuck
What the f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck?
Yes. Why would I predict him to win any other year when you are forcing Jordan to play pf? Does that even make sense? Lebron leads the Heat in points, rebounds, assist, and fg% and you think you can replace him and get the same results? Jordan is the GOAT, but he isnt God.
I said 2012 as well, depending on Bosh's health.
Last edited by navy; 08-14-2014 at 07:43 PM.
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Jeremy Lin beat you
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by JT123
If they would have built the team differently then your entire thread is irrelevant.
But thanks for admitting that Jordan wouldn't do shit with Miami's garbage roster!
I said "Big 3" era dummy. That means Bosh, Wade, and Jordan, and ROLE PLAYERS.
Had Jordan gone to a stacked Miami team like LeBron did and had the ENTIRE organization cater to his needs he would have gone 4-0. BOTTOM LINE.
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Jeremy Lin beat you
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by navy
Yes. Why would I predict him to win any other year when you are forcing Jordan to play pf? Does that even make sense? Lebron leads the Heat in points, rebounds, assist, and fg% and you think you can replace him and get the same results? Jordan is the GOAT, but he isnt God.
I said 2012 as well, depending on Bosh's health.
Once again:
Put MJ, Wade, and Bosh on the same team and like LeBron, get role players that FIT the best of Jordan's game (like LeBron) and the team goes 4-0. Simple as that.
How that is so difficult to grasp for you LeBron stans I'll never know.
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Curry fam
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by Kidbasketball20
Once again:
Put MJ, Wade, and Bosh on the same team and like LeBron, get role players that FIT the best of Jordan's game (like LeBron) and the team goes 4-0. Simple as that.
How that is so difficult to grasp for you LeBron stans I'll never know.
You idiot, when you have three max contacts, you get the best players money can buy. Which means you take on one or two MLE and then MINIMUM contracts.
The Heat have been trying to get quality bigs for years. They played small because putting out Joel Anthony was useless, so they adapted by having Bosh play center.
Jordan is going to be the next biggest guy on the court after Bosh? Good luck with that.
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big time kobe stan
Re: If MJ was on the Heat during the "Big 3" Era.. how many rings do they win?
Originally Posted by Kidbasketball20
I said "Big 3" era dummy. That means Bosh, Wade, and Jordan, and ROLE PLAYERS.
Had Jordan gone to a stacked Miami team like LeBron did and had the ENTIRE organization cater to his needs he would have gone 4-0. BOTTOM LINE.
Had the Heat organization "catered to Lebron's every need" then he wouldn't have left.
They never got him anyone who could help him out on the glass. They never got him a competent point guard who could assist him in playmaking responsibilities. They never got him a proven coach. Spo is nothing more than an asian Scottie Brooks, who would be a video coordinator for a high school team right now if not for Lebron. Riley gave Lebron a fast declining Wade, an overrated softy in Bosh, and a bunch of washed up one dimensional 3 point shooters.
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