ISH All-Time List: Vote on #6 Now.

[LAZERUSS]

If you were to compare CAREER resumes, and PEAK seasons, right now...Lebron edges Bird out. The only edge Bird has would be in rings, with a 3-2 margin. They both played in five Finals, and again, Bird has a 3-2 margin. They both have two FMVPs. Lebron actually has been a better post-season performer, too. In his 12 playoff seasons, Bird's high ppg was at 27.5 ppg, with another at 27.0 ppg. In his nine post-seasons, Lebron has had five higher than Bird's best, ranging between 28.2 ppg to 35.3 ppg, three of which were 30.3 ppg +. He also had a 27.4 ppg post-season, as well.

Lebron also has been more efficient, and has a higher career TS% and eFG%. Their apg is nearly equal (Bird with a 6.5 to 6.4 apg edge.) The only clear areas in which Bird has a statistical edge are rpg (10.3 to 8.4 rpg), and FT% (.890 to .755 .)

Lebron has already won more MVPs, 4-3, and has a higher career MVP ranking (albeit, Bird's fell off in his declining seasons.) And in terms of regular season statistical accomplishments, again, Lebron has been the better scorer (a considerably better scorer), and in the last few years his efficiency has shot thru the roof. Bird's highest FG% season was at .527. In Lebron's last three seasons he has put up .537, .565, and .567. Bird's two best eFG% marks were .555 and .556. Lebron has put up .603 and .610 in the last two seasons. Bird's two highest TS%'s were .608 and .612. Lebron has put up .640 and .649 in his last two years.

And there is no question that Lebron has been the better defensive player, either. Bird had three seasons of 2nd team all-defense. Lebron? Six first-team all-defensive selections.

Sorry, but Lebron has already passed Bird, and barring injuries, he will blow away Bird's resume by the time he hangs it up.

[russwest0]

so let me get this straight, Bird won 3 rings when his conference competition was the bad boy pistons and jordans bulls....

lebron won 2 rings when his conference competition was the pacers and rose led bulls.

interesting.

[LAZERUSS]

so let me get this straight, Bird won 3 rings when his conference competition was the bad boy pistons and jordans bulls....

lebron won 2 rings when his conference competition was the pacers and rose led bulls.

interesting.

Care to compare Bird's rosters to Lebron's...especially LBJ's last two seasons in Cleveland, when he took his rosters to records of 66-16 and 61-21...and which then fell to 19-63 after he left?

[LAZERUSS]

As for Bird-Magic...give me Magic who was the better playoff performer, the better "winner", better H2H, more rings, and more FMVPs.

As a side-note...in their career H2H's, Magic has the TWO highest scoring games between the two (games of 37 and 39 points.)

[BuffaloBill]

Michael Carter Williams has more votes than Hakeem right. 3 more votes

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so let me get this straight, Bird won 3 rings when his conference competition was the bad boy pistons and jordans bulls....

lebron won 2 rings when his conference competition was the pacers and rose led bulls.

interesting.

Didn't even have Rose.

My vote is for Shaq

[Destroyer9]

kobe

[ralph_i_el]

B b b bird (is the word)

[Cousin Oliver]

So who won this round?

[Yankstar]

Kobe

[houston]

Current ISH All-Time List:
1. Michael Jordan - SG.
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - C.
3. Bill Russell - C.
4. Wilt Chamberlain - C.
5. Tim Duncan - PF/C.


Kobe should be number 6

[raprap]

Magic

[Wavves]

Larry Bird

[Cold soul]

I like Duncan but he shouldn't be above Kobe even though it's debatable but Duncan over Magic no way.

[fpliii]

Current ISH All-Time List:
1. Michael Jordan - SG.
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - C.
3. Bill Russell - C.
4. Wilt Chamberlain - C.
5. Tim Duncan - PF/C.


Kobe should be number 6

With Hakeem at 7?