ISH All-Time List: Vote on #5 Now.

[HurricaneKid]

Kobe is a chucker, but he's not really inefficient.

Fair enough. But he isn't very efficient either. When you have a high volume player shooting more, a lot more, than any other player in the league for enormous periods of time he is going to compile a lot of counting stats.

[nzahir]

bird

[longhornfan1234]

Magic.

[Prometheus]

Tim Duncan

[played0ut]

what?

How is Magic not in the top 5 voting? Guy was considered the GOAT before Jordan. Give this man his due.

He was considered GOAT, yeah. But a lot can happen in 30 years lol.


Magic also has one MVP over Duncan. More dynamic and did more for the NBA.

I'm picking Duncan because of longevity, comparable accolades, AND his slew of All-Defensive teams. He was the defensive anchor. Basketball is played two ways and quite frankly, his impact on D blows Magic out of the water.


I wouldn't be too upset if Magic won though.

Magic did it all, in an era against another GOAT dynasty team, Bird's Celtics. Take either of those teams away, and the Celtics or lakers could have easily 7 or 8 rings in the decade.

The problem is you can argue that for any all-time great.


How many rings would wilt have if he didn't play against Russell's stacked Celtics? Shaq would've had 5 rings if he didn't play in the era of of Hakeem and GOAT centers.


Luck has always been a part of it.

[rhowen4]

i don't think tim duncan or kobe belong at 5

i'd pick shaq... but the list is messed up already imo

[ShackEelOKneel]

Shaq. His peak play was just amazing.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Magic Johnbrook.

[iBandwagon]

Duncan.

[atljonesbro]

Tim Duncan

[kennethgriffin]

if duncan is voted 5th all time ahead of magic

i quit discussing rankings


be spiteful towards kobe all you want. but my god. have some respect for history. magic is considered a Goat candidate most places in the world







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/ISH

[Denitron]

Larry Bird

[played0ut]

if duncan is voted 5th all time ahead of magic

i quit discussing rankings


be spiteful towards kobe all you want. but my god. have some respect for history. magic is considered a Goat candidate most places in the world







/thread


/ISH

First off, props that you're a fan of history.



But things change over time. You can easily put Bob cousy over magic using the same reasoning (6 rings, and was the first fast break PG who influenced pistol Pete and subsequently magic) or even Oscar Robertson.



You need to take everything into account. And while Duncan has comparable accolades as magic, he has longevity AND a career full of all defensive first teams.

Bball is a two way game and his defense blows magics out of the water.



And dude. How do you think I feel about bird? Insane peak, goat tier bbiq, love the man but I can't realistically put him above 8.

[r0drig0lac]

Timmy D

[BuffaloBill]

if duncan is voted 5th all time ahead of magic

i quit discussing rankings


be spiteful towards kobe all you want. but my god. have some respect for history. magic is considered a Goat candidate most places in the world







/thread


/ISH

Most of the players on this list are interchangeable. There is no real top 10 greatest players of all time.