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NBA Legend
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by unbreakable
Hakeem one of the most overrated players ever... won chips only when MJ retired and already the most watered down league in nba history..
hakeem also missed the playoffs a couple times and not a good man2man defender despite how many blocks he had on little guys, he would routinely get lit up by opposing powerforwards
TIMMY > SHAQ >>>>>>> DREAM
Hell, a 38-39 year old Kareem, who could barely jump over a match-stick, had TEN STRAIGHT games against Hakeem in which he averaged 32 ppg on...get this... a .621 FG%. Included were THREE games of 40, 43, and 46 (and on 21-30 shooting, and in only 37 minutes.) A prime Kareem would have routinely dumped 60+ on him.
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Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Robert Horry played with all 3. Played with Hakeem and Shaq in both of their primes. I'd say he's a pretty good source for the question. He says Hakeem is the greatest.
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Last edited by jayfan; 06-30-2014 at 11:28 PM.
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National High School Star
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Hell, a 38-39 year old Kareem, who could barely jump over a match-stick, had TEN STRAIGHT games against Hakeem in which he averaged 32 ppg on...get this... a .621 FG%. Included were THREE games of 40, 43, and 46 (and on 21-30 shooting, and in only 37 minutes.) A prime Kareem would have routinely dumped 60+ on him.
Kareem would murder Hakeem..
I have a feeling Shaq would murder Kareem tho... and Kareem/Duncan would be a tie
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College superstar
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
As players:
Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
As far as careers go:
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
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Local High School Star
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by unbreakable
Hakeem one of the most overrated players ever... won chips only when MJ retired and already the most watered down league in nba history..
hakeem also missed the playoffs a couple times and not a good man2man defender despite how many blocks he had on little guys, he would routinely get lit up by opposing powerforwards
TIMMY > SHAQ >>>>>>> DREAM
this true indeed
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I go HAM
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
Shaq
Duncan
Hakeem
This
Only 2 players have 3-peated, winning Finals MVP each year, in NBA history:
Michael Jeffrey Jordan and Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal
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Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
This
Only 2 players have 3-peated, winning Finals MVP each year, in NBA history:
Michael Jeffrey Jordan and Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal
He also probably should've joined Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Larry Bird as the only players to win three consecutive NBA MVP's over that same time span. 1 MVP looks absurd on his resume, honestly. Duncan wasn't a half bad choice for 2002 though, Shaq started slipping a bit defensively as compared to 2000/2001 when he fully earned those All-D selections with his far more concentrated effort where rim protection, post defense and help defense were concerned. Had some nagging injuries as well. Shaq was still the best player in the L over his 3-peat for me, he did enough. Grateful to witness and remember it.
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Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by Hands of Iron
He also probably should've joined Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Larry Bird as the only players to win three consecutive NBA MVP's over that same time span. 1 MVP looks absurd on his resume, honestly. Duncan wasn't a half bad choice for 2002 though, Shaq started slipping a bit defensively as compared to 2000/2001 when he fully earned those All-D selections with his far more concentrated effort where rim protection, post defense and help defense were concerned. Had some nagging injuries as well. Shaq was still the best player in the L over his 3-peat for me, he did enough. Grateful to witness and remember it.
Shaq had Kobe at the peak of his athleticism. Kobe was basically equal to Shaq after their first ring. Shaq's peak is overrated.
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Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by Big#50
Shaq had Kobe at the peak of his athleticism. Kobe was basically equal to Shaq after their first ring. Shaq's peak is overrated.
Equal in terms of what, volume scoring? He wasn't anywhere near as destructive or efficient, didn't possess nearly the same impact on the glass, didn't draw nearly the same amount of attention, didn't have nearly the same level of impact defensively. A lot of that is positionally designated, but ultimately that means nothing. It's why so many BIGS occupy the Top 10. Ohhh better passer, as it that were some area in which Kobe was amongst the league's best. Like he were Bird-esque there. Yeah, no. Fvck no.
Kobe was definitely an elite player by 2001, he did his part. Shaq was the NBA's best player.
Having each other seems like some two-way street to shit on both these days. I bet you haven't brought up Shaquille O'Neal in Duncan/Kobe debates, right?
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by Cold soul
As players:
Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
As far as careers go:
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
This.
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Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by jayfan
Robert Horry played with all 3. Played with Hakeem and Shaq in both of their primes. I'd say he's a pretty good source for the question. He says Hakeem is the greatest.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_-9Z2LF4fI
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The Awakening
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Top7: Hakeem
Top8: Shaq
Top9: Duncan
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NBA Legend
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by Harison
Top7: Hakeem
Top8: Shaq
Top9: Duncan
And yet Shaq just crushed Hakeem H2H, was a much greater winner, and was much dominant his entire career.
Duncan's career resume blows Hakeem's away, as well.
Hakeem is no longer even a Top-10 player. Lebron blew by him last year.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
mj is not retiring after the first 3 peat, it would never be even a debate, Timmy was equal (being better for longer times) with prime Shaq. timmy> shaq> hakeem is the correct answer
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NBA Legend
Re: Tim Duncan vs Shaq vs Hakeem - Who is ranked higher all time?
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
mj is not retiring after the first 3 peat, it would never be even a debate, Timmy was equal (being better for longer times) with prime Shaq. timmy> shaq> hakeem is the correct answer
I really don't care which you rank higher, Duncan or Shaq (Shaq was a more dominant peak player, while Duncan perhaps has had a better career), but...
Timmy=Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>> Hakeem.
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