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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by SuperPippen
Based on the quality of your previous posts, I certainly would.
who are you????
and where are all these posters coming from???
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
A trivial tangent: about a century or so ago Argentina's per capita GDP was actually comparable to the U.S.'s.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
My ancestors are from West africa. Yet...I am an american. Just how it is.
Ginobili's parents are Italian.
Parents are not ancestors.
Sub 65 IQ CONFIRMED.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by NumberSix
Spain fails so hard. The British Empire is responsible for countries like America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.....
What does Spain have to show for itself? Shitty South American countries, and not even the one decent one which Portugal can claim. Even to this day a small section of Spain is a British colony.
You suck Spain. Kill yourself.
Not to mention they are one of the dirtiest sporting nations and have dopers seeded into every sport.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by PsychoBe
who are you????
and where are all these posters coming from???
Been here for years, bruh bruh.
Just don't post nearly as often as some of the dedicated clowns on here do.
Still pop in from time to time.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by NumberSix
Argentina is no different than America or Canada. It's mainly populated by Europeans. Manu being Argentinian is no different than Kevin Love being American.
Argentina is Italian and German. Anyone that has even the slightest knowledge of history knows that.
Whole entire sections of that country is like being literally in Italy, where EVERYTHING is Italian and EVERYONE is Italian.
Like 90% of the Argentine basketball team is Italian, and the rest are German and Polish, with some token Spanish (SPANISH, as in from Spain, as in WHITE EUROPEANS, not native Americans) the same with the football team.
Only some moron ignorant Americans don't know this. Americans are so stupid they don't even realize Messi is an Italian name - I mean come on.
I mean it's like Americans don't even realize World War II happened....where the hell do they think all of those Italians and Germans went to?
Last edited by Euroleague; 06-13-2014 at 11:50 PM.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by TheMan
Lol
I always tell this to my Hispanic friends, I'm Mexican with Spanish ancestors on both sides. Too many Latin Americans want to claim Spanish blood, I guess because they want to get away from the 'lowly' Amerindian blood. Fvck that, I have Amerindian blood too, being Spanish ain't shit, every country they colonized is a developing country, the British have the US, Canada, Austrailia to name a few. Even the Asian country the Spaniards colonized, the Philipines, isn't anything to brag about.
Of course though, Spaniards didn't kill off all the natives the way the Brits did
US, Canada, Australia, are all nations with European settlers. Those countries were founded by and developed by White Europeans.
South America was never in that position. Those are all lands ruled by indigenous peoples, the Native (South) American Indians. Spain merely ruled over them, took their resources, and then left them to their own devices.
It's not the same. If Spain had kicked out all the people in the land, and then brought over White Europeans to primarily settle and take over the land as theirs, then it would be the same as the USA, Canada, or Australia. But its not the same. Spain left and let the indians rule themselves
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by TheMan
Okay, let me clarify. People from Mexico to Argentina and everything in between. I have a Colombian friend who obviously has some Indian and a smattering of African blood, yet he claims his family hails from Spain. I have a few Mexican friends, same shit. If you ever watch Latin American TV, they're always fair skinned actors. Latin America has this messed up thing where the more European blood you have, the better. Personally I couldn't care less but they do have that hang up down there. My mom had light brown hair with blue eyes, she was a white Mexican (they do exist) and my dad was fair skinned with curly hair. I'm darker because my grandpa had a lot of Amerindian blood. I basically look like your average latino, not too native looking but not too European either. Anyways I'm rambling, it just bothers me that too many think being of Spanish blood is special, hell no, Spain sucks.
Spain has a long and amazing and rich European history, you peasant. Spain does not suck, but your shithole indian country does. Don't try and belittle the land that taught you Spanish, architecture, music, Christianity, and civilized you away from those human sacrifices and backward cultures you had.
If you have a problem being a latino, that's your issue.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by TheMan
True. But lots of Hispanics want to claim pure Spanish blood as if that makes them better Spaniards fvcked up that whole region. It is what it is.
Yes, Spain conquered those lands and pillaged their resources. So what? So has most every nation that was a world superpower at one point or another. Spain, during it's days as the world's greatest power, did some bad things. So did the USA, Great Britain, Rome, and every other empire.
The reason they want to claim Spanish blood is because they know that the world's owes mostly everything to Europeans. So they want to be connected to that history, through Spain. They don't want to be seen as South American indians.
That's a problem within those people. Don't see why you go attacking Spain instead of attacking the low self-esteem liars who aren't happy with themselves.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
who were you thinking lives in Argentina? It's like 85% Euro.... and big part of that is Italian.
It was mostly empty pampas until Europeans moved there starting around 1860s - 1930s, aiming to get clear away from socialism. It was the best South American country until... socialism started destroying it.... Manu's only one of the fine athletes from that area of the world, would like to see more from all over S.America.
Americans think that everyone from Latin America is Mexican (as in Mexican race) and that also everyone from Spain is Mexican (as in Mexican race).
They also think that actual white people from Spain or Latin America are "not white", even if they are white. For example, if you are Hispanic, "you can't be white".
They also don't even know what the Mexican race even actually is. Which is probably the most incredibly pathetic thing of all.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by TheMan
To the OP, Manu is as Italian as Al Pacino is...Pacino is American of Italian ancestary, Manu is an Argie of Italian ancestary.
Your parents are not your ancestors.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ancestor?s=t
an
Last edited by Euroleague; 06-13-2014 at 11:19 PM.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by 3LiftHeatCurse
Spain has a long and amazing and rich European history, you peasant. Spain does not suck, but your shithole indian country does. Don't try and belittle the land that taught you Spanish, architecture, music, Christianity, and civilized you away from those human sacrifices and backward cultures you had.
If you have a problem being a latino, that's your issue.
Yes, Spain is better than Mexico. Everybody knows that. It's not a big accomplishment. Mexico is a 3rd world country.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by Euroleague
Americans think that everyone from Latin America is Mexican (as in Mexican race) and that also everyone from Spain is Mexican (as in Mexican race).
They also think that actual white people from Spain or Latin America are "not white", even if they are white. For example, if you are Hispanic, "you can't be white".
They also don't even know what the Mexican race even actually is. Which is probably the most incredibly pathetic thing of all.
Mexicans = Mongolians
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by Threethrows
Ethnicity is not the same as Nationality.
Well, Manu is a white guy of Jewish Italian descent, and he has both Italian and Argentine nationality.
Any way you look at it, he's Italian.
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Re: Why do people fail to realize that Manu Ginobili is Italian, not Argentinan?
Originally Posted by JohnMax
Wikipedia confirms this
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Thanks for confirming that Wikipedia is trash.
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