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I go HAM
Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Among all NBA Finals MVP winners, who had the best second option of all time?
Jordan had:
Pippen in 1991 put up 22/9/6 on 50% with 2.5 steals per game
Shaq had:
Kobe in 2001 put up 29/7/6 on 47% with 1.6 steals per game
Magic had:
KAJ in 1980 put up 32/12/3 on 57% with 4 blocks per game
Kareem had:
Magic in 1985 put up 18/7/15 on 51% with 1.7 steals per game
Kobe had:
Pau Gasol in 2010 put up 20/11/4 on 54% with 2 blocks per game
LeBron had:
Dwyane Wade in 2012 put up 23/5/4 on 46% with 1.7 steals per game
Wade had:
Shaquille O' Neal in 2006 put up 18/10 on 60% with 1.5 blocks per game
Cedric Maxwell had:
Bird in 1981 put up 22/14/6 on 47% with 2.3 steals per game
Bird had:
McHale in 1986 put up 25/9/3 on 58% with 2.4 blocks per game
Duncan had:
Ginobli in 2005 put up 21/6/4 on 51% with 1.2 steals per game
Parker had:
Duncan in 2007 put up 22/12/3 on 52% with 3 blocks per game
When you look at who had the best second option of all time, it makes it pretty hard. If I had to rank them into tiers I would do it like this:
Tier 1
Cedric Maxwell had:
Bird in 1981 put up 22/14/6 on 47% with 2.3 steals per game
Bird had:
McHale in 1986 put up 25/9/3 on 58% with 2.4 blocks per game
Shaq had:
Kobe in 2001 put up 29/7/6 on 47% with 1.6 steals per game
Magic had:
KAJ in 1980 put up 32/12/3 on 57% with 4 blocks per game
Kareem had:
Magic in 1985 put up 18/7/15 on 51% with 1.7 steals per game
Tier 2
Jordan had:
Pippen in 1991 put up 22/9/6 on 50% with 2.5 steals per game
Kobe had:
Pau Gasol in 2010 put up 20/11/4 on 54% with 2 blocks per game
Parker had:
Duncan in 2007 put up 22/12/3 on 52% with 3 blocks per game
Tier 3
Duncan had:
Ginobli in 2005 put up 21/6/4 on 51% with 1.2 steals per game
LeBron had:
Dwyane Wade in 2012 put up 23/5/4 on 46% with 1.7 steals per game
Wade had:
Shaquille O' Neal in 2006 put up 18/10 on 60% with 1.5 blocks per game
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Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
You are forgetting that LeBron had Bosh too, without Bosh, Wades stats would be much higher, thats a fact.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Magic was KAJ's sidekick in 1980
KAJ 1980 Playoffs:
31.9 ppg / 12.9 rpg / 3.1 apg / 1.1 spg / 3.9 bpg / 57.2 fg% / 79.0 ft% / 61.1 ts%
KAJ also won MVP during the regular season
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
This thread makes no sense. Maxwell was first option? Parker was too?
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Coach
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
2001 Kobe is GOAT 2nd option. 29/7/6 is first option stuff. All around offensive versatility, lock down defense with elite volume scoring. And he was clearly his team's closer for those playoff runs.
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I go HAM
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Magic was KAJ's sidekick in 1980
KAJ 1980 Playoffs:
31.9 ppg / 12.9 rpg / 3.1 apg / 1.1 spg / 3.9 bpg / 57.2 fg% / 79.0 ft% / 61.1 ts%
KAJ also won MVP during the regular season
I'm taking the Finals MVP winner, and comparing their second option that year.
We can argue Magic was KAJ's sidekick in 1980 and Parker vs Duncan, etc. but the easiest way is to take the Finals MVP winner that year and compare him to his second option. Less room to be subjective.
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I go HAM
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
2001 Kobe is GOAT 2nd option. 29/7/6 is first option stuff. All around offensive versatility, lock down defense with elite volume scoring. And he was clearly his team's closer for those playoff runs.
29/7/6 on 47% is amazing for a second option, but not GOAT 2nd option.
Check out 1980 when Magic won Finals MVP, Kareem put up godly numbers:
32/12/3 on 57% with 4 blocks per game
That's some GOAT second option shit. No wonder them dudes won 5 chips haha
Last edited by TheCorporation; 06-13-2014 at 03:33 AM.
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I go HAM
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Warfan
Why are u saying Maxwell 'had' Bird in 81', Magic 'had' Kareem in 80', Parker had Duncan and Kareem had Magic in 85'? (this example is too a lesser extent then the others but still)...
Anyway, GOAT sidekick is 01' Kobe, dude was amazing that year...
In order to not be subjective I took the Finals MVP winner and compared their second option. Takes out the argument of "But Duncan/Parker/Magic etc was better that year."
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Buck Dynasty
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
2001 Kobe was on current Lebron/Durant level, knowing he was a 2nd option really sheds light on how incredible peak Shaq was.
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Battle of LeBulge
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
kobe doesnt qualify since he played 1a for many series
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College superstar
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Black and White
You are forgetting that LeBron had Bosh too, without Bosh, Wades stats would be much higher, thats a fact.
you're also forgetting that without bosh/lebron, wade's career would already be over.
Wade got much more help from the big 3 than lebron or bosh. If wade is able to get another contract then he should pay half to lebron and bosh. although i am sure that wade will accept the player option and get some money. he would probably retire after next couple of years of very little playing time.
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Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
you're also forgetting that without bosh/lebron, wade's career would already be over.
Wade got much more help from the big 3 than lebron or bosh. If wade is able to get another contract then he should pay half to lebron and bosh. although i am sure that wade will accept the player option and get some money. he would probably retire after next couple of years of very little playing time.
LeBron should pay Wade his entire salary for what happened in 2011
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I go HAM
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Milbuck
2001 Kobe was on current Lebron/Durant level, knowing he was a 2nd option really sheds light on how incredible peak Shaq was.
Not quite, junior.
LeBron in 2012:
30/10/6 on 50% with 2 steals per game. Nice try, though.
Unless you think scoring slightly less points much less efficiently, while getting far less rebounds and steals is on the same level?
Last edited by TheCorporation; 06-13-2014 at 03:41 AM.
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College superstar
Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by Black and White
LeBron should pay Wade his entire salary for what happened in 2011
why? He and bosh carried them to finals. Wade's finals stats wouldn't matter if he lost against chicago. Wade had worse stats against bulls in ECF than lebron's 2011 finals stats.
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Re: Best second option in NBA playoff history?
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Not quite, junior.
LeBron in 2012:
30/10/6 on 50% with 2 steals per game. Nice try, though.
Interesting how he said current LeBron and you then bring up stats from 2012
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