which critera for ranking players all time makes more sense. Kobe fans or Lebron fan

[PickernRoller]

Says he's not mad, keeps typing shit. Kobetards...

It did die after 2011. Weak era. Joke of a finals.

Lets see: Bobcats, Nets, Pacers, Spurs. What's wrong w/ this picture?

What's wrong w/ the Heat?

Let me answer that for you: Everything is wrong. As for that clown taking a dig....I can talk my @ss off about a dead sport. Only LeStans circle jerk at a sarcasm post.

U mean to tell us u not mad storing that pic on your PC, waiting for the right moment to use it. Gonna spell it for you: Living rent free in your head. Pathetic excuse of an alt.

[aj1987]

It did die after 2011. Weak era. Joke of a finals.

Lets see: Bobcats, Nets, Pacers, Spurs. What's wrong w/ this picture?

What's wrong w/ the Heat?

Let me answer that for you: Everything is wrong. As for that clown taking a dig....I can talk my @ss off about a dead sport. Only LeStans circle jerk at a sarcasm post.

U mean to tell us u not mad storing that pic on your PC, waiting for the right moment to use it. Gonna spell it for you: Living rent free in your head. Pathetic excuse of an alt.

Editing posts and still replying. Bran did [COLOR="black"]f[/COLOR]uck your pathetic life up. Salty as [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uck

BTW, are you gonna kill yourself if the Heat 3peat? That would mean that 29 year old LeBron is officially above a geriatric chucker you worship.

[pauk]

Rings by fmvp/mvp winners? Kobe 5? Are you sure about that? Out of those 5 only 2 were that.... Kobe didnt win FMVP or was even close to a MVP winner during his first 3 rings, better yet wasnt even the best player on his team....



Anyways, to answer the question, its a combination of BOTH... which means Lebron > Kobe, especially after this Finals....

[INDI]

Rings by MVP/FMVP winners list

or

#of MVP's with rings as tie breakers

the kobe vs lebron agenda criteria for ranking players

whats closer to a realistic ranking ( giving token FMVP to bill russell for being named after it ) - finals mvps as tie breakers




Rings by mvp winners:

#1 - Russell ( 11 )
#2 - Jordan ( 6 )
#3 - Kareem ( 6 )
#4 - Magic ( 5 )
#5 - Kobe ( 5 )
#6 - Shaq ( 4 )
#6 - Duncan ( 4 )
#8 - Bird ( 3 )
#9 - Wilt ( 2 )
#10 - Lebron ( 2 )
#11 - Hakeem ( 2 )



MVPs with rings and FMVPs as tie breakers:

#1 Kareem ( 6 )
#2 Russell ( 5 )
#3 Jordan ( 5 )
#4 Lebron ( 4 )
#5 Wilt ( 4 )
#6 Magic ( 3 )
#7 Bird ( 3 )
#8 Moses ( 3 )
#9 Duncan ( 2 )
#10 Pettit ( 2 )
#11 Nash ( 2 )
#11 Karl ( 2 )





whats closer to the consensus top 11 best players in history

whats closer to what we can all agree on

what formula matches common sense?

Imo there are 12 guys who all have a csse at top 10. Oscar Robertson should almost be a lock for top 10. Outside of his 1 ring 1 mvp ( which fits this criteria). He has arguably greater stats than even Wilt when you factor in the fact he was a guard.

[tmacattack33]

Rings by MVP/FMVP winners list

or

#of MVP's with rings as tie breakers

the kobe vs lebron agenda criteria for ranking players

whats closer to a realistic ranking ( giving token FMVP to bill russell for being named after it ) - finals mvps as tie breakers




Rings by mvp winners:

#1 - Russell ( 11 )
#2 - Jordan ( 6 )
#3 - Kareem ( 6 )
#4 - Magic ( 5 )
#5 - Kobe ( 5 )
#6 - Shaq ( 4 )
#6 - Duncan ( 4 )
#8 - Bird ( 3 )
#9 - Wilt ( 2 )
#10 - Lebron ( 2 )
#11 - Hakeem ( 2 )



MVPs with rings and FMVPs as tie breakers:

#1 Kareem ( 6 )
#2 Russell ( 5 )
#3 Jordan ( 5 )
#4 Lebron ( 4 )
#5 Wilt ( 4 )
#6 Magic ( 3 )
#7 Bird ( 3 )
#8 Moses ( 3 )
#9 Duncan ( 2 )
#10 Pettit ( 2 )
#11 Nash ( 2 )
#11 Karl ( 2 )





whats closer to the consensus top 11 best players in history

whats closer to what we can all agree on

what formula matches common sense?

Neither. MVP's can be misleading and they aren't a best player award. Rings are a team accomplishment.

[Keno]

Rings+ MVPS + FMVPS


1.Jordan (17)
2.Russell (16)
3.Kareem (14)
4.Magic (11)
5.Duncan (9)
6.Bird (8)
7.Shaq (8)
8.Kobe (8)
9.LeBron (8)
10.Wilt (7)

Aint that bad

I cant be bothered to check it, but pretty sure they are the rignt numbers.

this is the best list. lebron winning this year jumps him up to top 5.

[PickernRoller]

Editing posts and still replying. Bran did [COLOR="black"]f[/COLOR]uck your pathetic life up. Salty as [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uck

BTW, are you gonna kill yourself if the Heat 3peat? That would mean that 29 year old LeBron is officially above a geriatric chucker you worship.

I'm pretty sure the death toll if he fails against senior Duncan will be much higher than the bodycount of a "Kobe fan".... If we go by 2011 numbers, it was actually pretty high.

Don't hold you breath nikka....u mad and u know it. Don't choke like your boy...

BTW the alternate account business is the biggest b1tch made fashion trend on ISH. Have some self-respect.

[aj1987]

I'm pretty sure the death toll if he fails against senior Duncan will be much higher than the bodycount of a "Kobe fan".... If we go by 2011 numbers, it was actually pretty high.

Don't hold you breath nikka....u mad and u know it. Don't choke like your boy...

BTW the alternate account business is the biggest b1tch made fashion trend on ISH. Have some self-respect.

I'm a Wade stan, retard. You just mad than LeBron at 29 has passed geriatric Chuckbe on the GOAT list.

Stay mad.

EDIT: "nikka"? Seiously? You post like an 8 year old potato kid.