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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    Get off my nuts you clown. Just look at Bron's stats in the era of inflated perimeter stats compared to Kobe's. Both guys came out of high school, so you can cry all you want about 'skewed' numbers, but the facts look like this:

    Kobe in his third year playing in the 90s: 19.9 PPG (46.5% FG)/5 RPG/4 APG

    Lebron in his third year playing in the 00s: 31.4 PPG (48% FG)/7 RPG/7APG

    ^That was the season that several perimeter guys, including guys who were drafted in the mid 90s, suspiciously had career years where their scoring sky rocketed. Wonder what happened

    '04-'05 Scoring Leaders
    1) Allen Iverson 30.7
    2) Kobe Bryant 27.6
    3) LeBron James 27.2
    4) Dirk Nowitzki 26.1
    5) Amar'e Stoudemire 26

    '05-'06 Scoring Leaders
    1) Kobe Bryant 35.4
    2) Allen Iverson 33
    3) LeBron James 31.4
    4) Gilbert Arenas 29.5
    5) Dwyane Wade 27.2

    Must've been something in the drinking water in the Summer of '05

    Now compare that to 10+ years earlier

    '94-'95 Scoring Leaders
    1) Shaquille O'Neal 29.3
    2) Hakeem Olajuwon 27.8
    3) David Robinson 27.6
    4) Karl Malone 26.7
    5) Jamal Mashburn 24.1

    '95-'96 Scoring Leaders
    1) Michael Jordan 30.6
    2) Hakeem Olajuwon 26.9
    3) SHaquille O'Neal 26.6
    4) Karl Malone 25.7
    5) David Robinson 25

    Notice how the smallest player in the top 5 from the 90s not named Jordan was the 6'8 250 lbs Mashburn. Meanwhile the 5'11" 165 lbs Iverson was putting up 33 PPG I shudder to think about the sort of destruction Jordan would've wrecked getting that sort of leg up from the league. Would've been disgusting to witness.

    Go to sleep.
    Look at the FGA from 2004 and then 2005. Kobe attempted 7 more FGA in 05-06 than 04-05. Iverson's FGA were up. So was James'. Plus Kobe and Iverson played more games in 05-06 than the previous year. That definitely had something to do it

    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...5/seasontype/2

    04-05 ^

    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...6/seasontype/2

    05-06 ^

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    MJ was a GUARD, not a wing. And even then OP's statement isn't accurate.

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    MJ was a GUARD, not a wing. And even then OP's statement isn't accurate.
    end thread

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    So can someone please tell me who are these dominant 2's in today's era?

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Wing's in MJ's 90's Era:

    Magic (Wing / Guard)
    Bird
    G. Hill (Wing / Guard)
    Penny (Wing / Guard)
    Nique
    Pippen
    G. Rice
    S. Smith (Wing / Guard)
    Mullin
    Spreewell (Wing / Guard)
    Mashburn

    Just to name some ...

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Calabis
    So can someone please tell me who are these dominant 2's in today's era?
    Harden and Wade are the only All-NBA level 2's left(Kobe's done IMHO). Now the SF and PF positions are more stacked than ever. The PG position isn't stacked IMO and not really top-heavy. Just a little deeper than the rest.

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    It was full of dominant bigs though:

    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Robinson
    Ewing
    Malone
    Barkley
    etc.

    ...and Jordan shat on all of them with Longley as his center.

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    The only thing this era has over the previous era is dominant point guards.

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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    The only thing this era has over the previous era is dominant point guards.
    1990s Era PGs

    Gary Payton
    Isiah Thomas
    John Stockton
    Kevin Johnson
    Tim Hardaway
    Penny Hardaway
    Mark Price
    Jason Kidd
    Terry Porter
    Terrell Brandon
    Joe Dumars
    Rod Strickland


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    Default Re: The 90s didn't have dominant wing players besides Jordan

    Pippen, Nique, Mullin, Drexler, Miller, Grant Hill, Glen Rice, Penny Hardaway were pretty decent wing players in the 90s and would all be top players in the league today

    90s was dominated by elite big men like Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Zo, Barkley, Mutombo, David Robinson, Malone, Shawn Kemp, Vlade Divac, Chris Webber, Otis Thorpe, Sabonis

    featured some great point guards like Kevin Johnson, John Stockton, Tim Hardaway, Gary Payton, Muggsy, Ron Harper(before joining Chicago), Mark Jackson, Mark Price

    90s had a lot of stars, people here just weren't around and probably have only seen a few highlight clips of some of these players and have no idea how good they were

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