Is Tim Duncan the only top 10 player of all time that...

[pastis]

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i mean, duncan was fvcking monster 03. but are there more than 40 places between his performance and dirks 11 O.o?

[T_L_P]

i mean, duncan was fvcking monster 03. but are there more than 40 places between his performance and dirks 11 O.o?

There obviously shouldn't be. It's absurd.

I personally have Duncan's ranked second or third all time and Dirk's around tenth. Dirk faced so many great teams that year.

ESPN.

And the way they shove LeBron in at number two is just as shameless.

[pastis]

There obviously shouldn't be. It's absurd.

I personally have Duncan's ranked second or third all time and Dirk's around tenth. Dirk faced so many great teams that year.

ESPN.

And the way they shove LeBron in at number two is just as shameless.

incredible, no really objective explications

i mean duncan 03. 30 PER, fvcking monster.

dirk as a 33 year old, past his prime, having such a clutch and epic palyoffrun. i mean it was dirks 2nd life "spring" if you can say it son in english.

[ArbitraryWater]

Shaq in 2000 is about the same. But 2001 and 2002, when he was playing with the second or third best player in the league? Like I said, apply context. Doing it without another star is almost impossible. Shaq had an ultra-star for his next two runs.

Jordan's first run, Hakeem's 94 run, and Shaq 00 run are the only ones that deserve to be put ahead, and even then I'm taking Tim's 03 run over Shaq's. I think ESPN ranked Duncan's second, in fact.

ESPN ranked it 3rd after Lebron 2012.... Jordan 1991 was 1st.

Edit: Aj already corrected

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loool that was ridiculous

put him 50

[T_L_P]

loool that was ridiculous

put him 50

I don't get it. Maybe they didn't want to remind people of Bron in the Finals?

[Magic 32]

Jordan 96-98
Shaq 99-02
Duncan 03-05
Kobe 06-08
Lebron 09-13

[Anaximandro1]

-NBA regular season is meaningless (Kevin Durant was the latest example)

-PER, WS, ORtg, DRtg need context: similar minutes played, similar usage percentage, tend to decline when you make a deep playoff run, etc. Just make sure that you're comparing alpha dogs to alpha dogs.


Year-By-Year


1998

Jordan was the best player in the game

[SCdac]

first player to win back to back MVP's since Jordan, yet he's never been the best player?

[ArbitraryWater]

Jordan 96-98
Shaq 99-02
Duncan 03-05
Kobe 06-08
Lebron 09-13

Wait, you got 2014 for Durant?

[T_L_P]

And let's face it: Duncan was the best player in '99 as well.

We can't say Shaq was the best but he lost to the better team and still call him the best player in '02, because Shaq's team beat Duncan's, even though Duncan seriously outplayed both Shaq and Kobe in their series against each other.

[DFish24]

I don't think there was ever a year where Duncan was the clear cut best player in the league.

[T_L_P]

I don't think there was ever a year where Duncan was the clear cut best player in the league.

'03, when he beat Shaq and Kobe, the second and third best players in the league, without another top fifty player on his team (don't give me that depth shit, the Lakers were still the clear favourites to win the title that year and even before the Playoffs started). I'd say it's near impossible to win the MVP, title (going through the other two best players), and Finals MVP and not be considered the clear cut best player that season.

If there wasn't a clear year for Duncan, there wasn't a clear year for Kobe, Dirk or Garnett either (even though there really was).